No snowflake here. I was raised to not live in such a way that I couldn't do what's necessary for myself and my family without having a helper or servant.

...and my 'servant' was treated damn well and paid extra than what the locals would have paid. She was treated as one of the family. My wife worked as well and we arrived in HKG with two small children. Don't gob off about 'colonialism'. Most domestic helpers are employed by Hong Kong Chinese. The salary we paid her bought her a house in the Philippines and supported a large number of indolent relatives.

You are just as much a 'servant' flying, I presume, Swire's aircraft for a salary.

canada's a much better place for the servant - for one you get pr

Absolutely. That's why I fully understand the experience of oppressive colonialist treatment and I don't like it.

As for the Hong Kong Chinese being the employers of most domestic helpers, might that be due to the fact that 92% of the population of Hong Kong is Hong Kong Chinese? Or, maybe it's because they take after their former colonial masters?

[QUOTE=Captain Dart;9934662]...Don't gob off about 'colonialism'.

Perhaps Oval comes from a place where they are far more comfortable taking about wicked colonialists than they are about, i dunno, say..........imperialism.

So I was an HKA FO for 3 years living on that salary (its actually about 90-95K) and it wasn't that bad. Its not something you want to do for a long period of time, but were we (two kids and a wife) suffering? No. We bought a car and moved to a small village in south lantau. Tung Chung is not a place you want to live, unless you like living in a tiny concrete box in the sky. We had two stories of a home plus a rooftop for 20K. I have no regrets and would still be there if it weren't for a few things like the horrible upgrade process and the bad environment for my family. Met a lot of great people and the experience there got me a fantastic job back home, something I will always be grateful of HKA for.

:) You flew the Metroliner?

Curtain. THAT is a funny comment. :ok:

Talk about back handed compliments! That post takes the biscuit.

Can I ask did you insure yourself and your family ?

The DPA strongly advises members to insure themselves due a long, sad litany of tragic events affecting pilots and their families. Health care is inadequate and may bankrupt you. As could loss of licence.

The cost is about $10,000 USD a year unless the HKA or the pilots union has strong insurance policies for pilots? The subject rarely gets a mention, though every year I've been here, there's more than one event where pilots are crippled financially due poor insurance cover.

Of course, it can't happen to me.......or my wife, or my kids.......

Slightly off topic

But it Seems that HKA are attempting to recruit the ex-MON guys.

A few of my friends (single) have interviews with them on the roadshow at the end of Nov. Handfuls have never visited HK and don’t really know what they’re letting themselves in for.

The lure of heavy metal, and the possibility of playing with a new A350 is just too much of a sweetener

Yeah - and let them know that HKA have just made their second default on pilots pay in six months.

The trick is to leave with the same woman you arrived with. Avoid catching “yellow fever” or having the wife and maid swop roles if you want to leave with any money at all.

Once you go Asian........

...."having wife and maid swap roles..." :D

I see that a lot in HK, they're always the pale white guys from Australia or Britain. Was at Repulse Bay for vacation and saw one of them making out like no one was watching smack dab in the middle of the beach. If I didn't know any better I would've thought they were making a porno. I wonder what Uncle Xi thinks of HK.

Not much, he's made that abundantly clear.