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Average Fool 12th Oct 2017 15:43

attention do nothing cargo loader driver!!!

there is an office on the 9th floor in cathay city waiting for you!!

ANTIPHOLUS 12th Oct 2017 16:09

Actually. You're out of date. It's moved to the 3 rd floor, to be close to the troops

spannersatcx 12th Oct 2017 18:30


Originally Posted by Killaroo (Post 9922114)
Were there Pax on board?
Was a headset connected?
If so, was it working? Tested?
If not - should it be?

Can’t speak for AA but CX SOP headset must be connected during refuelling.

Killaroo 12th Oct 2017 18:59

OK - connected. But not manned.
Is it a requirement to confirm it is working i.e. comms tested before boarding?

spannersatcx 12th Oct 2017 20:57


Originally Posted by Killaroo (Post 9923031)
OK - connected. But not manned.
Is it a requirement to confirm it is working i.e. comms tested before boarding?

Normally connected on arrival and used, so I guess that’s a check! Not sure there is a specific to check it per se, but it’s fairly obvious if it’s not working. A lot of the time we will start refuel before the flt deck turn up so will be talking to no one anyway 😧 not that they listen 😉

Killaroo 13th Oct 2017 03:24

Spanner’s, if there’s nobody in the cockpit the boarding can’t start anyhow.

Friend of mine recently had a Cargo Smoke Warning during refuelling/boarding. The ground headset turned out to be u/s when he attempted to call ground to find out what was happening.
Rather awkward - what would you do?

spannersatcx 13th Oct 2017 16:51


Originally Posted by Killaroo (Post 9923329)
Spanner’s, if there’s nobody in the cockpit the boarding can’t start anyhow.

Friend of mine recently had a Cargo Smoke Warning during refuelling/boarding. The ground headset turned out to be u/s when he attempted to call ground to find out what was happening.
Rather awkward - what would you do?

Get up and check!

Killaroo 14th Oct 2017 07:58

That’s what he did. He sent the FO to have a look.
But as he said afterward, no pilot likes the feeling of sitting in the cockpit staring at a potential raging fire in the belly hold while having no comms, twiddling his thumbs and waiting for somebody to come tell him WTF is happening!

Here’s a better solution.
Before boarding, make it SOP to positively check and confirm comms with the ramp via a working headset.
His company actually FORBID this because it ”wastes time” and might delay boarding!
Safety be damned. OTP is the first priority. All other priorities rescinded.


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