Bases are next
 

Just heard a rumour that after the Hong Kong Pilot cost savings are achieved and completed, bases are the next topic on the agenda. As there are barely any cost savings left, too many labor laws to comply with and a cost to administrate the bases, each basing area will be assessed how to achieve a closure of the particular basing area. Some speculate that for North American bases this will coincide with the expiry date of their respective CBA.

Well at least there is a end date to the misery of CX. After the battered pilot syndrome we have endured. A US airline will feel like a day at the beach.
Next thing will be no credit for the rest time on long haul flights. Just like Emirates.
This management is the worst I have ever experienced.
God Speed

And by then the Company's fortunes will have turned. Good luck CX!!!

Well, that'll give everybody based in the USA two years to get a job with an American airline. Shouldn't be too hard, except for the Canadians based in the USA.

That about sums it all up.

We can't compete on UK bases because we have to obey laws we don't like. Funny how BA and Virgin manage.
I imagine Qanatas do quite well with their labour laws too.

Now we can't compete out of HKG because that's too expensive.

Is there something wrong with this picture?

The only picture that is 'wrong' is the one of the grinning idiot on the Friday Flyer each week.

They want it to be cheap to employ cheap pilots in HKG....where there are no first world labor laws to contend with.

That negates the cost benefit arguement of employing pilots on a base.

Bases are done under this scenario.

I guess so.

So whose idea was it?
How did we end up in this situation?
Who were the cystal ball gazers who didn't see this coming?
Was it the "troublesome cabin crew"?
Was it the "greedy pilots"?
Oh hang on a minute.............

Well, I guess they best hope the kiddies don't wise up.

And that the A350 keeps on giving. FWIW Gillette made a fortune by giving away the razor and selling the blades (but they DO make quality shavers for what that's worth too--just a bit on the expensive side).

I keep getting this old black and white movie image of a balding haggard looking bespeckled gent with a temporary girlfriend way out of his league standing over a roulette table and nervously betting the company payroll on "Red."

I call bull**** rumour.
The guys on bases are the expensive guys to have in HKG. There's no $90,000HK rent + school allowance paid to me.....

Will IB Fayed

Well it sounds like ARAPA will be gone pretty soon if you believe AT. Everyone will be getting the same deal HKPA or whatever they will call it.

More likely scenario is that ARAPA is gone as we know it. It'll be replaced by a fancy new name and a lot less $$$. Meanwhile the HKPA team get nothing. Savings from culling ARAPA are for Anna, not you.

[sarcasm] Let 'em close it... I'm gonna be rich from the U.S. lawsuit anyway![sarcasm/]

Correct!!! If you have a military pension, a seniority number at UA, and/or a wife in tall cotton and you're planning to leave soon anyways; then this CA lawsuit might be a nice top-up. For the rest of the US base, it's a career killer unless you're willing to come to HK on HKPA. The plaintiffs will tell you otherwise, but that is nothing more than their guilt talking.

Management is the career killer, not a lawsuit.

Don't forget how many times CX has broken laws to go the cheap/greedy route.

They are rotten to the core.

So if I walk up to a tiger and poke it in the eye with stick, is it the tiger's fault I got mauled. CX is what it is. As you say, "rotten to the core."

Poking a tiger with a stick is just retarded and you deserve to be mauled. The tiger is a animal and is doing what is natural for it. It's protecting itself from harm from a idiot who pokes it.
Those who standup to abuse and reckless disregard for the law are not poking a tiger. They are hunting it. Big difference.

So show me how the US base ends up winning from this... Some guys get paid and a few ride off into the sunset. What about the rest??? Base closure? HK? Career FOs? Guys stuck on bases on opposite coasts?

We may win the battle, but we will lose the war.

Yea, the bases were growing like weeds prior to the lawsuits. <------- that is sarcasm


Another major blunder by CX.

This lot couldn't get f####d in a wh##e house.

Your making a rather large assumption regarding bases. The US bases have been under staffed by hundreds of pilots long befor any lawsuit. When the first pilot showed up willing to take HKPA. The bases were doomed.
Anyone who belives different is not reading the tea leaves correctly. I will give a example of why I am correct. The Canadian bases are all understaffed. Yet, no vacancies. If I deduct all the reason why not as unsuitable answers. The only answer left is.... they don't want anymore pilots on bases. My mind is open to any logical argument disputing my theory.
Remember there are a hell of a lot of pilots working under first world labor laws. There companies appear to be successful and thriving. Any reason CX puts fourth other than, we don't want pilots on bases any longer, is a lie.
Standing by to be disputed.