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Arfur Dent 12th Aug 2017 21:14

Sloppy due diligence and amateurish disregard of National requirements - exactly like the Paris debacle. And yet nobody is ever held to account. Don't the Swire Senior Execs in London ever intervene and at least find out why some of the Cathay leadership (sic) is basically not up to the task??

Cpt. Underpants 12th Aug 2017 22:59

"Don't the Swire Senior Execs in London ever intervene and at least find out why some of the Cathay leadership (sic) is basically not up to the task?"

Of course not. That would be an admission of failure to perform due diligence on THEIR part. And we all know that they're never wrong.
On the subject of management incompetence, am I the only one who thinks it a little strange that 3 years AFTER being appointed a director, the DFO is off on a management course?

betpump5 13th Aug 2017 04:31


3 years AFTER being appointed a director, the DFO is off on a management course
Be it resolved that all funds available to the AOA be used to hire the best Hacker in HKG to make the above statement the DFO's "out of office " auto reply.

broadband circuit 13th Aug 2017 06:04


3 years AFTER being appointed a director, the DFO is off on a management course?
You mean she's actually on a management course? I thought that was just a cover story where they'd actually sent her away to get a CPL so that she meets the AOC requirement of the DFO being a pilot.....

Cpt. Underpants 13th Aug 2017 06:34

We've had non flying DFO's before this one (remember the zoologist?) - I think this management course thing is, at least, plausible.
It's not the event itself that leaves me aghast and incredulous, it's the sheer arrogance of this bunch. Neither embarrassed nor remotely apologetic, they are a law unto themselves.
I'd pay almost anything to witness some of these fools and charlatans being led away in cuffs.

mr did 14th Aug 2017 03:37

Pants, you're not counting RH as a flying DFO are you? He was the definition of a Swire sock puppet

goathead 14th Aug 2017 09:38

Shes on her way out.
This will be the start of large eruptions similar to '99 .Nothing is out of bounds for this lot.
Cos '17 in your mailbox Sept /Oct.
You will need a week minimum of stress leave to contemplate if your a victim.Prepare for the pineapple ladies and gents

Oasis 14th Aug 2017 10:08

I'm shaking in my boots! Please spare me!

Average Fool 15th Aug 2017 02:13

^^^^
Sad but true.

Do they still tell them they can get a base?

Trafalgar 15th Aug 2017 02:23

Pretty well defines the outrageous travesty that CX has become. They provide a description of an airline/career, that upon arriving in HK you soon find was a fictional construct that bears no relation to reality. Examples:

1) basings - in name only. in reality they stopped years ago
2) childs education - they don't mention the astronomical debenture costs to get your child a place in a proper school
3) staff travel - they don't tell you that it's almost inaccessible, and the cost is prohibitive for most of the staff. Your FOC's are a cynical joke, and worthless
4) career progression - constantly changing the goal posts, thereby making any planning a guessing game at best
5) medical care - constantly reducing the benefits to the point that most pilots are having to find their own coverage
6) housing - inflationary housing costs with no increase result in marginal housing expectations in the most expensive city in the world (but our managers live lie kings...and the odd queen)
7) retirement - non-existant, as you will barely be able to pay your bills each month, especially if married and/or have children.

So...continue to join this wonderful little unicorn of an airline called CX, and be the latest to find out that you joined a completely different company than the one you thought you were joining. :bored:

Avinthenews 15th Aug 2017 05:01


Originally Posted by Trafalgar (Post 9862141)

The best bit, CX put shiny jets at #1 and no one reads the rest :ugh:

Strewth 15th Aug 2017 06:16

Resolve 7th freedom issues, basings Peter Forsyth, Monash University Oct 2008

CX mismanagement seem unable to play to their strengths, assumes they see them.


DropKnee 15th Aug 2017 17:44


Originally Posted by Strewth (Post 9862213)
Resolve 7th freedom issues, basings Peter Forsyth, Monash University Oct 2008

CX mismanagement seem unable to play to their strengths, assumes they see them.


The problem with letting anyone fly anywhere they want is that we would soon be on Sudan terms living in our airplanes. Just like many of the poor saps in the maritime industry. No thanks. Not all markets are the same.


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