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Bo Wing 6th Apr 2017 13:29

9 Bad Manager Mistakes That Make Good People Quit
 
An interesting read, sums up our sorry bunch quite well. Sadly though, I don't see any change coming from them, not in the time I have left here, at least. :suspect:

9 Bad Manager Mistakes That Make Good People Quit | The Huffington Post

I thought I'd add the paragraph headers, as they really stand out in the context of CX managers. They are;

1. They overwork people.

2. They don’t recognize contributions and reward good work.

3. They fail to develop people’s skills.

4. They don’t care about their employees.

5. They don’t honor their commitments.

6. They hire and promote the wrong people.

7. They don’t let people pursue their passions.

8. They fail to engage creativity.

9. They don’t challenge people intellectually.

And in summation, the final paragraph reads;

If you want your best people to stay, you need to think carefully about how you treat them. While good employees are as tough as nails, their talent gives them an abundance of options. You need to make them want to work for you.

Loopdeloop 6th Apr 2017 13:41

Number 5. RPs. Nuff said.

MENELAUS 7th Apr 2017 00:56

You're being a bit harsh on Benedict Arnold.

Freehills 7th Apr 2017 01:25

So, given that very few people are quitting, does that mean that CX didn't hire good people in the first place? :)

Captain Dart 7th Apr 2017 02:00

CX couldn't care less. Even if they read it, the article would have as much effect as the trainers' letter. This lot want people to quit; the expensive senior ones that is.

Then they can replace them with the cheapies, who are joining and being trained up in droves.

mngmt mole 7th Apr 2017 02:17

Facts are facts. Over the past 25 years, CX has managed to dumb down the airline, to the point that the aircraft are predominantly operated by spiky haired, steroid pumped, rave party kids. Not the kids fault of course, it's a reflection on their overall age group. The day of reckoning is coming, just as it did for many of CX's peer airlines, where the occasional hull loss is something they stumble through and then move onward to designing the next set of management bonuses. The 'old' CX died about 15 years ago. It is only with the benefit of looking back at what once was, you appreciate how far it has fallen. Many passengers see the 'name' and assume they are flying the same airline they were in the 80's and 90's. If fact, none of that airline exists anymore. They are now being flown by people that are barely old enough to shave. I look around at dispatch and realise that the airline I am employed by is a stranger to me, as are most of the pilots I now fly with. Strange phenomena. I will take no pleasure on the day I look at the front page of the SCMP and read about the inevitable disaster that will one day overtake this airline. It could have, and should have been so different. Greed, incompetence and arrogance. The recipe for the perfect storm.

Octane 7th Apr 2017 03:20

You can add dishonesty into that little list....

joblow 7th Apr 2017 06:23

Having just watched a re-run of the accident investigation of Air France flight 444 . The one that was stalled by the first officer when the pitot tubes froze up. The FO unable to recognise the situation kept pulling back on the sidestick and maintained up elevator throughout effectively cancelling out the downward input from the more experienced relief who was trying to recover .
this Tv show highlighted the lack of basic manual flying skills common to today's aircrew . I'm not casting aspersions of blaming anyone it's just a fact , most of the older pilots grew up flying light aircraft sometimes in terrible conditions and honed their flying skills that way . This is not happening today and I'm afraid that there is no alternative to experience .
Almost any of the older generation faced with the same situation would have kept the aircraft straight and level with the same thrust setting . If it was fine for the time leading up to the pitots freezing , chances are that if you don't change things the status quo will remain the same
I'm just not sure that the younger pilots have the necessary expertise as was clearly demonstrated in this accident

mngmt mole 7th Apr 2017 11:59

Well, yes,but that 'awesome' commander had only just returned to the cockpit from being asleep, was standing behind the FO's and by the time he realised what the situation was it was too late to recover the aircraft. The useless inexperienced FO basically took hundreds to their deaths, because AF decided that experience didn't count for much. Hmmm, wonder which airline that reminds me of?

gtseraf 10th Apr 2017 04:45

mngmt mole.

I don't think any 1 airline has exclusive rights to this "attitude" This seems to be happening in many airlines worldwide. Very sad!

:ugh::ugh::ugh:

MENELAUS 10th Apr 2017 06:49

He had been on the nest for the previous 4 days (allegedly) maybe a bit sleep deprived..Being French, I think espresso fm First, croissant, bit of grooming, then wonder wtf was going on..

mngmt mole 10th Apr 2017 06:53

Read the accident report.

CXChildLabour 10th Apr 2017 07:16


Originally Posted by mngmt mole (Post 9731888)
Facts are facts. Over the past 25 years, CX has managed to dumb down the airline, to the point that the aircraft are predominantly operated by spiky haired, steroid pumped, rave party kids. Not the kids fault of course, it's a reflection on their overall age group. The day of reckoning is coming, just as it did for many of CX's peer airlines, where the occasional hull loss is something they stumble through and then move onward to designing the next set of management bonuses. The 'old' CX died about 15 years ago. It is only with the benefit of looking back at what once was, you appreciate how far it has fallen. Many passengers see the 'name' and assume they are flying the same airline they were in the 80's and 90's. If fact, none of that airline exists anymore. They are now being flown by people that are barely old enough to shave. I look around at dispatch and realise that the airline I am employed by is a stranger to me, as are most of the pilots I now fly with. Strange phenomena. I will take no pleasure on the day I look at the front page of the SCMP and read about the inevitable disaster that will one day overtake this airline. It could have, and should have been so different. Greed, incompetence and arrogance. The recipe for the perfect storm.

Makes me wonder, what have you done in your previous life that you have to put yourself through this torture. There surely are better things in life for you to do and better people for you to worry about. You had your chance to uphold B scale as the lowest denominator but no, you just left the LEPs out in the cold for years so they couldn't touch your piece of pie. You serious think all of the "senior experienced" guys can just wipe their hands clean and say it's the company's fault? Pretty sure we can still get tons of experience coming in if we ain't dishing out **** scale contracts to everyone now.

XFR8 10th Apr 2017 07:47

Another FH thread descends into farce


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