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Tea time 14th Mar 2017 00:04

Winter storms in USA
 
It will be very interesting to see if Cathay is going to cancel any or all flights bound for the US east coast
JFK, EWR and BOS are expecting 12-18 inches of snow with winds gusting to 30kts . During a massive winter storm
I see so far there have been 6000 flights cancelled already , with EWR almost shut down tomorrow
Stay safe out there

KJFK 132325Z 1400/1506 13008KT P6SM FEW120 BKN250
FM140300 08012KT P6SM OVC070
TEMPO 1403/1406 2SM -SN OVC025
FM140600 07016G26KT 3/4SM -SN OVC010
FM140900 05025G32KT 1/4SM SN BLSN FZFG VV004
FM141100 05030G40KT 1/4SM +SN BLSN FZFG VV002
TEMPO 1415/1418 1/2SM FZRASNPL OVC007
FM142100 34025G37KT 2SM -SN OVC015
FM150200 30022G30KT 4SM -SN OVC035

aeropelican 14th Mar 2017 03:46

From cx.com:

Adverse weather conditions in the US and Canada
Latest update: 14 Mar 2017 2:00 HKT (GMT+8)

Due to winter storm Stella in Northeastern US and Canada, flights to and from these areas can be affected. We advise our customers to delay any trips to these areas for the next few days.

The following flights have been cancelled:
CX830/14MAR From Hong Kong to JFK, New York
CX831/14MAR From JFK, New York to Hong Kong

CX840/14MAR From Hong Kong to JFK, New York
CX841/14MAR From JFK, New York to Hong Kong

CX888/13MAR From Vancouver to JFK, New York
CX889/14MAR From JFK, New York to Vancouver

CX845/15MAR From JFK, New York to Hong Kong
CX846/14MAR From Hong Kong to JFK, New York

Flights delayed:
CX812/14MAR From Hong Kong to Boston
CX811/15MAR From Boston to Hong Kong

Average Fool 14th Mar 2017 05:27

Yawn.

BFD

Welcome to America. Most of the yanks cut their teeth flying in this kind of WX.

MENELAUS 14th Mar 2017 05:58

Yep. God's gift. Every last one of 'em

ACMS 14th Mar 2017 06:31

6,000 flights cancelled, mostly domestic says that most yanks don't cut their teeth or anyone else's for that matter in that kind of weather.:D

cxorcist 14th Mar 2017 08:45

It's not about pilots and flying. The airports simply can't keep up with the snow removal and deicing that's required to move all the flights. By contrast, HK can barely get it done in really good weather with just a tiny percentage of the aircraft movements seen in NYC alone, not to mention the rest of the NE corridor. Maybe that's because we treat every flight like it's a lunar landing. Ever heard of a visual approach in HK? Oh no, that's far too scary.

McNugget 14th Mar 2017 09:54


Originally Posted by Average Fool (Post 9705363)
Yawn.

BFD

Welcome to America. Most of the yanks cut their teeth flying in this kind of WX.

Do you realise how stupid this makes you sound?

Hugo Peroni the IV 14th Mar 2017 11:16

Can't wait for the letter to Gus.

I went flying in snow, it was a challenge, we landed. We thought it was time to win!


Originally Posted by McNugget (Post 9705560)
Do you realise how stupid this makes you sound?


Will IB Fayed 14th Mar 2017 11:55


Originally Posted by Tea time (Post 9705222)
It will be very interesting to see.....

What an exciting life you must lead...

DropKnee 14th Mar 2017 20:57


Originally Posted by Globocnik (Post 9705370)
Yep. God's gift. Every last one of 'em

It is nice to be acknowledged. Thank you😛

Average Fool 14th Mar 2017 23:45


Originally Posted by McNugget (Post 9705560)
Do you realise how stupid this makes you sound?

On an anonymous "rumor" network?

I guess I should take this more seriously.

MENELAUS 15th Mar 2017 02:27

Pleasure.:rolleyes::)

WhatsaLizad? 15th Mar 2017 04:02


Yep. God's gift. Every last one of 'em

Globocnik,


Yup, pretty much so.


I fortunately (lucky squirt club) live in a country that if we were attacked from a base on the dark side of the moon, we would spin up and be capable of retaliatory strikes on that base within 24 months if properly motivated.


Is this the same with the little hovel you reside in?

WhatsaLizad? 15th Mar 2017 04:11

On a more serious note. I believe there was a serious risk of dumping 300+ passengers at JFK without ground transportation or available hotels if the storm had taken a track to dump 24" of snow at the airport.
That being said, the large amount of flights that were cancelled were narrow body and more subject to schedule constraints of each airline. IMHO, the long haul flights should be sent provided secondary plans for lodging are secured at places like YYZ or ORD in the event the forecast weather appears.

broadband circuit 15th Mar 2017 04:56

Clearly this is caused by global warming... ;)

Curtain rod 15th Mar 2017 08:05

Oh, just before the confirmation bias-driven, junk science-believing, conspiracy theory believers take over this thread and spread their "alternative facts", a reminder that this is what the relevantly educated, properly informed and data-driven scientists everywhere mean (with a worldwide scientific consensus, minus a few financially motivated, lobby-funded groups/spokespersons):

From: https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/n...e_weather.html
The difference between weather and climate is a measure of time. Weather is what conditions of the atmosphere are over a short period of time, and climate is how the atmosphere "behaves" over relatively long periods of time.

Hey, but what does NASA know about the atmosphere, anyway?

OK4Wire 15th Mar 2017 08:42

:}I'm sure they know quite a bit, it's what they choose to tell us is the important bit!

Expatrick 15th Mar 2017 09:51

The only thing I know about man made global warming is that there ain't no money in denying it!

cxorcist 15th Mar 2017 16:52


Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 9706692)
The only thing I know about man made global warming is that there ain't no money in denying it!

Amen! And therein lies the rub.

Oh btw, it's -5F outside my hotel right now, in the middle of March, at sea level, but that's just a weather phenomenon. We should be really concerned about global warming in the last century or so, because this time it's different! Where have I heard that before? The "science" is always final, until it's not... when the next batch of "science" comes out, but THIS time they've really got it figured out. Yeah right! Let me go warm up my 6.2L truck. I've got a 10 hour 747 flight to fly. How's that for carbon emissions? You Prius driving queers!

MENELAUS 15th Mar 2017 17:05

Only 24 months Lizard ? I think a few months longer for us. We have our own warheads, however, we get the missiles from you guys. The last one we fired ( in your waters ) went awol a la Kim Jong Un ( I appreciate the efficacy of an ICBM is enhanced by not knowing where it's going, up to a point ) and we'd have to have a cup of tea before we launch it. Hovel ? Yes. It is. It's my hovel though. Ta ta.


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