Brave move Mr. Author. Have to give you some credit on that one. Still, I suspect that if you had to do it over again :cool:

So landing in anything more than a moderate fart is now a cosmic event!!!
I do agree with how f'ing useless IOC are when contacted for info or to get off their asses and organise anything!!! Operations centre ?? Absolute bollocks

Good job Skipper!! Should have just stayed in the hotel though, brah.

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I'm willing to bet that not one single keyboard warrior picks up the phone and says to his face, what they've said here.
Although a bit long winded, I thought he did a good job in difficult conditions. 40kts at HKG is more than sporty enough for me thanks. I'm obviously not worthy compared to some of the aces on here.

CN Green,

No problem with any of your actions. It's just that you had to write in to the fleet office about it that makes it so abhorrently lame (no disrespect to the disabled), and I would say that to your face but just can't be bothered. Good luck with your training captain's course...

If you'd say it to his face then why not post your real name. He's called all your bluffs by posting g his and his number. If you all continue to hide on an anonymous forum it says a lot more about you than him.
Ivan Davies ba777!!!!!

Uh, let me think about that for two seconds. No thanks. As you can see, I've made over 1100 posts on this forum, some of which were quite industrial. Maybe you haven't heard, but CX can be quite vindictive and they tend to have long memories. 2001? 49ers? Ring any bells? Enjoy BA. We don't have quite the same labour protections in Hong Kong.

And on the subject of BA 777....
WTF is going on over there?
A Captain playing with himself at FL380 in women's stockings to a nudie mag all by his lonesome in the " cockpit " no no no!

Really? I haven't heard about that one on the inside of the company ..... yet. :uhoh:

Okay, so let me try and summarise the thrust of this whole thread.
I doubt whether anyone has any issue with the way this flight was handled bar the phone calls to various people which enevitably turn out to be a waste of time as anyone who has ever called IOC will attest to..... remember that they thought the 777 that diverted to Shemya had landed in Sanya.
Now, if you had flown from LHR to HKG, had suffered an engine fire near sierra and it hadn't gone out and then the other one failed overhead TD and you deadsticked it to 25L in the middle of a raging typhoon I would want a 10,000 word essay on the event, hell, I would want a movie made starring me!
But unfortunately it was a pretty bog standard flight to HK but with a narrative more fitting of a Space Shuttle launch which I think had the boys riled up.
Now, if that description of events was written for private consumption, fair enough, but I would be on the blower to the fleet office asking that it be removed from the monthly bulletin as it was making the author sound like a bit of a ******.

Your comments about the only thing that interested me on this thread beyond how do guys survive this job long term without leaving their day behind them as they cross back over the Tsing Ma bridge.

Hong Kong can be a dangerously opportunistic, insecure and vindictive professional environment. And it doesn't stop when terminated. The most disappointing aspect of these shadows, is that they are often cast by fellow pilots, sometimes former good friends.

I'll re-read the original post, but on first glance it was quite boring and very different to the autonomous nature of flying operations I'm used to.

Oh turn it up!
If I had written some decidedly wanky account of how I saved the day on a pretty routine flight I would expect to get flamed mercilessly and not just on an anonymous forum but in real life as well.
It's the nature of this business.
You forget that a lot of our colleagues have, in the past , actually saved the day in very trying curcumstances and gone home, had a beer and shown up the next day like nothing happened.
They are the blokes you want behind the wheel.

Comprehension not your strong point mate? Yep, bored me to tears at a glance and I'm just reasoning with those who think it's brave and not stupid to post your savaging of the system without anonymity.

Gotcha..... I think...

Ok, that's an honourable intent.

In that case, have you requested or demanded a public apology in the next Boeing newsletter, or has one been offered?

I'd suggest one of the more important traits of a good commander is that of humility. While everyone likes lessons learned and confidence is important honking ones own horn to me indicates a certain lack of experience. The gods of aviation are fickle and it is good to be blessed with humbling experiences early along the way such that one realizes one can go from hero to zero pretty quickly in this business.

It would be nice to see a wee bit less of the drama queen quality in some of the there I was writeups in general. If one is talking about hotels, traffic, ILSs, dmes, and autolands it just doesn't seem that worthy of drama compared to fires, getting shot at, holes in the airplane, large fuel leaks, etc.

I'm not a CX pilot but that doesn't matter because I'm a Boeing driver and am really only interested in the max crosswind for autoland that this article raises. Now, I've never flown the 777 and that might be where the difference lies but I have flown the 737/47/57/67 and in all of those AOMs there was never a distinction made between LVO max crosswind and non-LVO. My manuals always simply state(d) that 25 kts is the max allowable crosswind for an autoland. I have seen artificially lower limits imposed by a company in the Operations Manual but the actual aircraft limit was still 25 kts according to Boeing.

For 3Greens, these limits were observed in BA on all the aircraft above so, unless it's a recent change, I don't think it was company specific because the three airlines I've flown for all had the same limitations.

Could it be a 777 thing? Are the CX 747 limits just a straight 25 kts, LVO or not?

B777 Autoland + VMC = 38 kts
Autland + LVO = 25 kts

Interesting 777 difference and, so far, so good.

What about the CX 747-400, or can nobody remember now it's not in service ;)

Really?

The Daily Mail have milked it. All pictures are there, censored certain parts Japanese style of course. Full name, pictures, hairy legs in black stockings, marital status, how many kids he has etc.

If you want a laugh, type in Google BA Pilot Suspended. Its the first thousand or so results !