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Penske 5th Sep 2016 05:11

UPS Pilot contract after 5 year stalemate
 
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- Members of the Louisville-based Independent Pilots Association have overwhelmingly ratified a five-year labor contract with UPS Airlines that will deliver a $40,000 to $60,000 bonus to each pilot, an immediate increase in base pay and “more favorable” rest policies for overnight and international flights.

The IPA’s 2,500 pilots -- many of whom are based in UPS’ global air hub of Louisville -- voted 91 percent in favor of the contract, according to a news release from the pilots union Wednesday.

The contract, which runs from Sept. 1, 2016 to Sept. 1, 2021, includes an immediate pay hike of 14.65 percent, followed by annual increases of 3 percent over the life of the deal, according to the pilots association.

UPS will also pay a one-time “signing bonus” of $60,000 to each captain and $40,000 to each first officer.

The average UPS pilot covered by the contract earns $238,000 annually, UPS said in 2015. Captains, who rank higher than first officers, are guaranteed $255,128 and typically earn about $290,000, UPS said at the time.

The deal was a long time in the making. The pilots’ previous contract with UPS ran through Dec. 31, 2011, and the two sides announced a tentative agreement in June following two years of mediation.

“UPS is gratified that our crewmembers have ratified this win-win contract offer,” UPS spokesman Mike Mangeot said in an email. “Our pilots do a great job of flying our global express network, and we are pleased to reward them for their contributions to our company.”

The pilots union also said the new deal includes “a 40 percent increase” to UPS’ defined-benefit pension plan. Union spokesman Brian Gaudet said that means increased contributions by UPS to the plan’s funding over the next five years as well as higher benefits for retirees.

The deal also includes enhanced rest policies “including more favorable duty period limits for overnight and international flights; additional sleep facilities at major gateways; and sleep modules in UPS B767 aircraft,” according to the union.

“Important gains were made in all areas of the contract to include improvements in the critical area of pilot scheduling,” pilots association President Robert Travis said in the news release.

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broadband circuit 5th Sep 2016 05:32


voted 91 percent in favor of the contract
These UPS managers aren't very efficient. They should come to CX and learn how to offer a 50% + 1 contract.

Trafalgar 5th Sep 2016 05:33

I trust that there is not a single CX pilot reading this who needs the obvious explained to them. Thought not.

cxorcist 5th Sep 2016 05:48

Traf,

Sadly, that is not the case. You better spell it out...

Threethirty 5th Sep 2016 06:07

We need brown uniforms?

Trafalgar 5th Sep 2016 06:09

Rather a 'sh*t' uniform than a 'sh*t' contract.

Freehills 5th Sep 2016 08:36

Plus Louisville is a low cost of living area.

For the single CX pilots who haven't yet realised the obvious. Start getting friendly with the US cabin crew. That's your best bet for a green card.

DropKnee 5th Sep 2016 15:57

All CX pilots are good for is negotiating a lesser cut in pay each year. They want a 4% cut, we offer 3.9% cut in pay. For a CX pilot. That's called winning👊





Originally Posted by Freehills (Post 9497351)
Plus Louisville is a low cost of living area.

For the single CX pilots who haven't yet realised the obvious. Start getting friendly with the US cabin crew. That's your best bet for a green card.


bafanguy 6th Sep 2016 09:29

Speaking of the UPS contract, here's a 30-minute video...a bit dry and off in the weeds in spots...detailing the UPS contract. Just ignore the Delta stuff since it's only a work in progress. The details of what UPS got are in there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21TSEX8Xh2o

Yonosoy Marinero 6th Sep 2016 16:57


I trust that there is not a single CX pilot reading this who needs the obvious explained to them.
Yeah... We need to join the teamsters!

Hellenic aviator 6th Sep 2016 17:57

A real Union, but then again, this is the result of a unified pilot group.

'We' can't even take care of each with simple concepts such as jumpseat requests.

Independent Pilots Association

RAT Management 7th Sep 2016 02:36

We have an independent Pilots Association: Independent pilots furthering their own personal ideas and agendas while simultaneously screwing over the majority group. :ugh:

JPJP 8th Sep 2016 21:31


Originally Posted by Curtain rod (Post 9499466)
CX Comparison with our failed TA

Key components of the agreement include:
  • An immediate pay increase of 14.65% and 3% annual wage increases over the life of the contract, for a compounded increase of 29.04% (Only 2.5% next year and the year after, nothing after that, almost 1/6th of UPS pay increase, but less if inflation is less, and more if inflation is more, but only half of the difference is awarded, for a total of 5% vs. 29.04%)
  • A $60,000 signing bonus for Captains, and a $40,000 signing bonus for First Officers ($0)
  • A 40% increase to the defined benefit pension plan ($0, as there is no DB plan, only a P Fund feeding most of your profits to HSBC in fees)
  • Crew rest enhancements, including more favorable duty period limits for overnight and international flights; additional sleep facilities at major gateways; and sleep modules in UPS B767 aircraft (Reduced crew rest via RP cancellation and the imposition of reduced manning levels)
  • A commitment by UPS to work with the IPA in applying the latest in fatigue science to pilot scheduling (No commitment at all to fix the 99% of fatigue-related issues, since rosters are always "legal" - unless there is not just no cost, but it is a financial/commercial advantage to fix an issue, but even then only if yet another concession from the pilots is extracted in exchange, hopefully a concession which has already been extracted before but then unilaterally canceled by management so that it can be extracted again)

As another point of reference. Southwest Airlines pilots have reached an agreement in principle (AIP) for a new contract.

It includes:

1) An immediate pay rise of 15%, followed by 4 annual raises of 3%. ( ~ 29% compound raise)

2) Backpay (Retro bonus) for the three years of negotiations. 3% for year one, 7% for year 2 and 11% for year 3. Percentage of yearly pay, including profit sharing. Average earning Captain bonus U.S. $60K. F.O - $40K.

3) Retirement increase to 15% paid by Company, with no requirement for a pilot to contribute in order to receive the company contribution.

4) Increase in Reserve pay and improvement in work rules.

Profit sharing is above and beyond all of that. It has been in the order of 8 - 15% of annual gross earnings in the last three years. Not guaranteed obviously. No profit, no sharing.

Trafalgar 8th Sep 2016 22:13

haha...point 4 made me laugh: 'no profit, no profit share'...! At CX it's usually 'lots of profit, no profit share'. Hopefully everyone stuck here realises we are working for one of the most historically greedy management groups of all time. I ask the average CX pilot to ask yourselves a simple question: "if you've been here for 5 years or more, how much have you actually saved for you and your family/retirement etc? Then, when you have concluded the obvious, ask yourselves, "what chance of saving anything in the next 5 years". Then ask yourselves, "why do I bother to stay"?

JPJP 8th Sep 2016 22:44


Originally Posted by Trafalgar (Post 9501579)
haha...point 4 made me laugh: 'no profit, no profit share'...! At CX it's usually 'lots of profit, no profit share'. Hopefully everyone stuck here realises we are working for one of the most historically greedy management groups of all time. I ask the average CX pilot to ask yourselves a simple question: "if you've been here for 5 years or more, how much have you actually saved for you and your family/retirement etc? Then, when you have concluded the obvious, ask yourselves, "what chance of saving anything in the next 5 years". Then ask yourselves, "why do I bother to stay"?


��. In all fairness, SWA has made a profit it every year that it's been in business.

I understand and commiserate. Amongst other things - One thousand SWA pilots demonstrated (an impressive sight) and four of the Unions, led by the pilots carried out a vote of no confidence in their CEO. It became personal.

Stay the course. ✊��

broadband circuit 9th Sep 2016 03:26


four of the Unions, led by the pilots carried out a vote of no confidence in their CEO. It became personal.
Good point. Can the AOA at lest talk to the FAU and the LSU about doing something similar??

Oval3Holer 9th Sep 2016 04:45

The difference here is that nobody really cares about who's the CEO. SWA employees care about their company and its reputation. Can't really say the same here.

DropKnee 9th Sep 2016 06:59

Just remember we are the best! The best at ............ Stabbing each other in the backs.
That is why we fail everytime. The next contract will be a joke too. That makes me a fool for being here.

Average Fool 9th Sep 2016 14:16

Agreed. A majority of this pilot group has shown no solidarity or willingness to sacrifice for the greater good. Conveniently blaming the AOA or some other chicken s#%t reason why they don't have any backbone.

Management is here to make money, not friends.

Most of the pilots here have that backwards.


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