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Frogman1484 18th Jun 2015 05:04


As you know the effort is being made right now to go through the last few years worth of ID travel for all pilots to find guys that have started duty without adequate rest after commuting - several people have recently been in trouble over this - and a few more are about to get punished for past sins as they are found out....

while they are doing this, they are still PXing guys to a destination and getting them to operate straight away!

What is the difference of a guy flying in from BKK in the morning and operating in the afternoon compared to PXing to Bkk and operating back in the afternoon!?:ugh:

ByAirMail 18th Jun 2015 06:26

Goog luck finding my second passport and my Star Alliance loyalty card. Do I detect some commute envy Missing blade? Just do it, and be responsible.

Birddog1671 18th Jun 2015 07:39

Back to the initial thread
 
Major problem with Yammer. It does not work on my trusty Nokia 6100. Awesome Phones.

If I was provided with a company paid for smart device that included the company paying for the data plan that i would need to access Yammer and then pay for the electricity bill to keep said device charge then maybe I might consider joining Yammer but I think I have a greater chance of it snowing in July in Hong Kong then that ever happening.

spleener 18th Jun 2015 15:07

This social enterprise Yammery thing seems okay on the face of it:

Cutting edge technology boosting company communications and engagement etc etc - blahblah.
That same Big Brother technology empowers the company to track those exact markers - communications and engagement: Identifying subject matter/trends through key-word phrase search, identifying individual employees engagement and usage patterns, enabling the tailoring of communications via identified "Champions".

Perhaps I'm over reacting, and maybe MH just needs a win after the EFB debacle, but I find it all very Orwellian: Recall the last few lines of 1984 : "But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."

ByAirMail 18th Jun 2015 15:09

I wouldn't wish a commuter's lifestyle on my worst enemy.

Now there is real envy. Let me see, 3 hour commute in business class with a choice of airlines very 40 minutes. Blue sky, a house so big some of the rooms are empty, a back yard where my kids can fall out of the tree's ( yes they can climb trees and no, there is no sign board requiring safety helmets). A cost of living 1/3 of Hong Kong, hanging out with expats and local friends that don't know or care who CX is... I'll stop there for now.

Manage the commute bit sensible, and the lifestyle make for happy healthy kids. But thats another threat all together. Back to Yammer.... That social thing I would't recommend to my worst enemy.

Just Do It 19th Jun 2015 00:28

what's a Dela?

According to Google its a Pickle. That's exactly what I would say Mark is in.

landrecovery 19th Jun 2015 00:44

So to sum up, the people complaining about Yammer are doing it on prune :sad:

That's ironic! 😋

Just Do It 19th Jun 2015 01:58

landrecovery,

What is the difference between Yammer and PPRuNe?

Just Do It 19th Jun 2015 02:00

landrecovery,

Its been 45 seconds do you need some help?

controlledrest 19th Jun 2015 02:05

You can't be serious
 
Dear Mark

Short answer: Get F**ked.


Longer answer: If you want to communicate with me post a NTC or amend the manuals (and send me details of the amendments - not just a notice that an amendment has been made - I don't know how the current non-system can be legal). My time is my own, don't expect me to spend the short time I have between patterns looking at various feeds from the company.

It is a legal requirement for me to have the recovery periods free of all company duties. To me this includes sudo-offical operational information via an app I have no interest in at all.

Captain Dart 19th Jun 2015 02:21

PPrUNE: a web site I log on to voluntarily with my own computer in my own free time for my own pleasure and education. While 90% of the posts are rubbish or irrelevant to me, there are nuggets of information, news, humour, gossip, history and technical details about subjects in which I am interested.

YAMMER: a web site which I am brazenly being asked to voluntarily access with my own computer, uncredited, in my own free time prior to commencing a duty period in order to assist a manager in a large corporation to cover for its lack of foresight regarding crew numbers, reserve capabilities and industrial relations. This is in addition to absorbing FCOM, IntraCX, Outlook, NTC, Fleet Fora, 'Newletters', OPS Manuals, online courses and so it goes on.

By the way, my fleet had a major SOP change months ago and we are STILL working off a NTC (procedures still not in FCOM). And how's that EFB project going? It really is 'GA with jets'.

CISTRS 19th Jun 2015 04:25

James Tong - Executive Yammer Champion
 
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/...psk7hcgtmg.gif

arse 19th Jun 2015 07:17

http://i58.tinypic.com/2moxqic.jpg

Arfur Dent 19th Jun 2015 07:59

We're supposed to be in CC. Therefore, unless it states in your contract that you MUST be signed up to this Yammer nonsense, then don't sign. How hard is that?? If you signed - unsubscribe right now. Then it will obviously go away and our gallant leaders will look more than a little foolish, which they should, because they are.........

CISTRS 19th Jun 2015 08:07


our gallant leaders will look more than a little foolish
They most certainly are stupid. Daft as brushes. Trashing the brand.
The sh!t they make available in the public domain is crazy.
Do they REALLY think that customer readers of CX World or members of the Marco Polo Club give a to$$ about their Yammer program?
:ugh:

VR-HFX 19th Jun 2015 10:13

CFIT .. yammers meet yak...love your work Arse.

A cursory glance at the dictionary does provide some insight into how management may have come up with this hair-brained idea.

Yammer

Verb

to utter or whine in a complaining or peevish manner
to make (a complaint) loudly or persistently
(intransitive) (esp of an animal) to howl or wail plaintively or distressingly; yelp or yowl

Noun

Also: yammering. a whining sound, wail, or utterance
nonsense; jabber

Derived Forms

Yammerer noun

Word Origin
Old English geōmrian to grumble, complain; related to Old High German iāmar misery, lamentation, Old Norse amra to howl

Yam

Someone who moderates the Yammers.

valhalla634 19th Jun 2015 11:15

Now that RH has left it is nice to have demented emails from MH to look forward to reading! Quite amusing.

main_dog 19th Jun 2015 12:02

Shame, because he's a damn sight smarter than RH ever was... but just as disconnected from the general morale at the coalface, it would seem.

Pucka 19th Jun 2015 12:10

But he's Australian...I'll get my hat

Will IB Fayed 19th Jun 2015 18:41

Arse, I know the term "LOL" is overused these days, but in my case it was true. A classic cartoon with a timely edit. Piss funny.


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