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Joejetjock 15th Jun 2015 05:38

Such Pussies
 
We pilots are all such pussies. The girls have shown us how to deal with the company properly and they did so with great success. Got everything they wanted. The blueprint is there. What's it going to take for us to wake up and smell the coffee?
Instead of moving forward, we bicker like old women over that which amounts to nothing and find new ways to further divide what is already a woefully fragmented association.
Oh...but we have so much to lose. What crap. Pussies, all of us.
The Company knows that fear trumps courage and they know just how to ratchet up the fear in their pussy pilots.
What do we need to do? Do what the girls did: get over the fear, act out of courage and threaten to strike in August. And then wait.

Freehills 15th Jun 2015 08:47

True. But a CX flight attendant speaking English, Cantonese & probably Mandarin can walk out on strike tomorrow and get a job paying almost exactly the same amount in a shop/ coffee bar/ hotel/ bank within a week in case it goes wrong.

Pilots, not so much.

Average Fool 15th Jun 2015 09:30

Unless you stick together.

Which is the whole point.

VH-UFO 15th Jun 2015 09:47

Such Pussies
 
Well all good then Freehills, just keep bending over then.

ron burgandy 15th Jun 2015 10:11

I wonder what would happen if they failed to publish the FA roster at noon tomorrow.

I'm sure whatever action the FAU would take would ensure it would be out at noon the following month, and every month after that for a very long time.:ok:

Joejetjock 15th Jun 2015 11:26

Ron Burgundy, I'm sure you're a great guy (or maybe gal) , but if the chips were down, I wouldn't want you by my side.
Fear grips your insides.

Lowkoon 16th Jun 2015 00:50

What about "rollng stopages", stop work meetings all the good ol industrial tactics that mean you don't loose a months pay or anything else, one or two days a month, and remember, only captains need to go out, everyone else can turn up to work, and rightfully expect to get paid but the jets cant move. I'll get my hat to head outside and watch the pigs fly. :ouch:

Lowkoon 16th Jun 2015 04:11

What percentage of workers does their association represent? Maybe they need to teach the pilot body that lesson first, then we can learn to run with them after first learning to crawl.

RHEINHARD 16th Jun 2015 04:33

The FA's have got **** all to lose. Yes, CN's ( just like the freighter guys supposedly carrying the lion's share of CC in ANC, should take the moral high ground and take one for the team..... Bollocks. )

Average Fool 16th Jun 2015 15:26

Bingo!!!!!

And what have the FAs lost????

Nothing.

Good Business Sense 16th Jun 2015 17:03

[quote]

“You only have power over people as long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything, he's no longer in your power--he's free again.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Joejetjock 17th Jun 2015 04:22

The Company have exposed their Achilles tendon: they need to keep airplanes moving or all of them from Ivan on down might as well stay at home. If airplanes continue to be idle for any amount of time Ivan on down might be pulling out their resumes to jump ship.
The girls were smart enough to figure that out and then how to go about it: merely the "THREAT" of strike action was enough to get all they wanted. Overnight.
So what have we learned?
The Company fears strike action from any group that can stop airplanes moving and will do what it takes to prevent strike action.
What's it gonna take?...........courage. Then concerted action. And we know who needs to pick up the ball to get things rolling.
Over..

AnAmusedReader 17th Jun 2015 06:49

they didn't "win" anything, they merely retained what the company took away!

Come on Jizz, they didn't "retain", they got it back.

It was definitely a win.

What have you had taken from you over the years and what did you get back? The answer might be "lots and nothing."

Captain Dart 17th Jun 2015 08:02

I am not commenting on the morality or otherwise of a recruitment ban.

However, during the one in the 'unpleasantness' in the late nineties, Little Ken and Co. squealed about it like stuck pigs. It was one thing that got their attention.

CXtreme 17th Jun 2015 08:16

REINHARTH
 
REINHARTH and similar posters. I am going to take a swing with a very high probability of a home run. You are from a younger generation. Never had to fight for anything or had to sacrifice anything.

RHEINHARD 17th Jun 2015 11:06

Not even close son. Not even close. Young ? I wish. And yes, your right. Had everything handed to me on a plate.

CodyBlade 17th Jun 2015 13:01


Got everything they wanted
I tot they got what was theirs in the first place? no?

CXtreme 17th Jun 2015 13:08

No Cody, no generation have rights, we strive to leave it better for the next generation.

Joejetjock 17th Jun 2015 14:06

A recruitment ban is the way of pussies. It's putting our fight on someone else's shoulders. Why should they fight our fight by staying away? Why would we expect them to? Unconscionable.
We need to have the cohonas that the girls have and lead our own battle.
Whats it gonna take?

Pogie 17th Jun 2015 22:56

I've been on leave, so I'm out of the loop. What exactly happened with the cabin crew?


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