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anotherbusdriver 10th Mar 2015 08:35

A350 rumour
 
Allegedly CAD has decided to deny permission to CX for A330/ A350 MFF.

If this is the case, I am thinking that the timing is spectacular.

SloppyJoe 10th Mar 2015 08:50

If that's the case, bravo to the CAD. Just looking at the cockpit should be enough for a sensible person to know it's not a good idea. Look at the systems and even a not so sensible person would start to doubt the idea. Good news for the more senior guys on the Airbus as at least it will mean no CGK/ICN/SIN night returns or any other of the many lovely patterns they currently enjoy.

Despot75 10th Mar 2015 08:55

Good rumour! However, it's total BS.....
Call CAD and ask the question.

LongTimeInCX 10th Mar 2015 09:01

The last time I heard one of our managers discussing the issue was only recently, and his view was quite definative.
Whilst it was mentioned there had been a 'degree of misunderstanding' by someone in the CAD, and this may have been due to a doors issue, CX were still believing it would be able to plan for crew to operate both 330 and 350 as a common type.

If this recent news above has superseded the previous doors issue, then that certainly throws a substantial spanner in the works with regard to future 'bus crewing levels.

swh 10th Mar 2015 09:08

Its a common type rating on the type certificate, for both cabin crew and pilots.

c. Pilot Type Rating: The licence endorsement for the A350-900 series aircraft is "A330/A350". The A350-900 and the A330 series aircraft are variants of the same type of aircraft.

http://easa.europa.eu/system/files/d...1_Issue-01.pdf

Frogman1484 10th Mar 2015 09:55

I believe that the CAD. Has rejected their application for a A330/340/350 common type.

The A340 can be CCQ with the A330/350.

If the FAA and the Europeans give the A350/330 common type I doubt very much that the CAD will reject it.

CCA 10th Mar 2015 10:12

I wouldn't give the HK CAD any credit, they are civil servants who barely have a clue about aviation and that's being generous. Any loss of face moments would be immediately met with CANNOT :ugh:

Simply put they are out of touch with aviation and barely function as a regulator.

betpump5 10th Mar 2015 13:52


. Simply put they are out of touch with aviation and barely function as a regulator.
We still talking about HKCAD or CX Management?:}

Loopdeloop 10th Mar 2015 14:45

The CAD will come into line with whatever CX want, as they always do.

anotherbusdriver 12th Mar 2015 16:31

That's great news for the bus drivers stuck here, demoralized, whilst out of seniority upgrades are being done onto the 777. Some light at the end of the tunnel, if we all will get a chance to fly it.

It would be even better if the fleet office would keep updates coming, and be transparent with why command fleet type switches have suddenly stopped.

So, do we have to wait until the first jet arrives and is entered onto the HK register until approvals are written into the manuals?

Life kind of sucks right now. Snookered. No way out.

boocs 7th Jul 2015 09:32

As Qantas decides on 787s, the A350s come over horizon | Plane Talking

b.

mr did 7th Jul 2015 09:44

I had heard they had the CCQ in the bag but were sweating on MFF. CCQ is a short differences course so you can change types. MFF is the ability to fly the two types at the same time.

No MFF would introduce a a very big spanner to the works...

asianeagle 7th Jul 2015 10:20

so let me understand this correctly....

CAD is pretty much a box ticking exercise when it comes to approving FTL's, dispensations and various other bits and bobs that CX need from time to time.

Do you really think they are now all of a sudden going to put there foot down and say no to CX's request for MFF / CCQ or whatever you want to call it, considering EASA have already approved it to other operators across 3 types???

There is big money involved here, of course CX will get it right, to believe otherwise would be naive!
Its just another aeroplane, how hard can it be?

Algol 7th Jul 2015 13:41

EASA don't mandate Base Training on type.
The CAD do.
Even for new recruits with thousands of hours on type.

happy ending 7th Jul 2015 14:57

Maybe with that idiot Mike Davis gone now, sense will prevail

SloppyJoe 7th Jul 2015 15:38

Who cares!!!!

It will be 3 crew long haul with **** patterns. You will get to sit for hour upon boring hour, trying to stay awake in it.

Who f:mad:ng cares?

Yonosoy Marinero 7th Jul 2015 15:47

The ones who care are those that will have to safely operate two essentially different airplanes, thereby increasing their responsibility, workload and overall burden, all the while working increasingly fatiguing rosters, thanks to airlines and manufacturers pressuring regulators to allow them to do so for the sake of 'competitivity'.

Or, to paraphrase an illustrious contributor: 'To my bonus' ®...

boocs 1st Apr 2016 13:16

Cathay Pacific's new A350 raises questions | Plane Talking

b.

Hopeless CAD 1st Apr 2016 13:33


Maybe with that idiot Mike Davis gone now, sense will prevail
Or maybe with that idiot DG Lo will soon leave CAD, pragmatic sense will further prevail, but then once the polka DDG Li becoming DG, stupidity will be back.

qld330 1st Apr 2016 13:39

Do Qatar, Vietnam, Finnair, TAM and soon to be Lufthansa operate the 330/350 as a single type does anybody know?


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