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Oval3Holer 19th Aug 2014 05:42

Cathay Firsts! Fact or fiction?
 
Many parts were salvaged from the crashed L-1011 last flown as Eastern Airlines Flight 401. Those parts were installed in other L-1011s, some of which were flown by Cathay. It has been said that aircraft on which parts of the crashed L-1011 had been installed have been involved in sightings of ghosts on board.

Cathay crew were the FIRST to publicly report on-board sightings of ghosts of those who died in the crash of Eastern Airlines Flight 401.

Fact or fiction? Cite your source confirming or denying the claim.

VR-HFX 19th Aug 2014 05:59

Fact. Specifically lower galley.:eek:

moosp 19th Aug 2014 06:08

Derived fiction. Some of the oven units were salvaged. When word got out that they were from 401 the superstition of the Asian cabin crew took over. One cc worked alone in the lower galley so it was a bit spooky down there on your own in flight anyway.

Nobody got a selfie with a ghost, so it didn't happen.

Oval3Holer 19th Aug 2014 06:08

Cathay was the very first delivery customer for the 747-200 in 1979.

Fact or fiction?

Old Fella 19th Aug 2014 06:11

Ghosts of Flt 401
 
Only ever operated on the three leased L1011's ( N314EA-N316EA-N321EA) and never had the experience of seeing any of the "Ghosts". Not a bad urban myth which seems to be still doing the rounds. Maybe had I remained on the fleet long enough to have been involved with the later purchased ex Eastern aircraft I might have encountered a ghost. Cathay were nearly a decade late to have been the launch customer for the B747-200 which was launched in 1971. CX did not acquire their first B747 until 1979 (VR-HKG). Engines were RB211-524B's.

Oval3Holer 19th Aug 2014 06:24

Cathay was first to operate the 777-300 in revenue service.

Fact or fiction?

Dash8driver1312 19th Aug 2014 06:37

Cathay Firsts! Fact or fiction?
 
Ref: Ghost of Flight 401.

I think this puts it quite clearly that EASTERN was the company that first saw ghosts of the crew. As well as a little exorcism to deal with.

Old Fella 19th Aug 2014 06:38

Oval3Holers Fact finding Mission.
 
Sorry Oval3Holer. Let Wikipedia be your friend.

White None 19th Aug 2014 06:42

Quadspeed admits he's a Muppet
 
Fact or Fiction - Quadspeed proves in writing he can neither count nor spell so closes his thread and runs off :=

Welcome light relief in a sea of Doom :D

8d8 19th Aug 2014 06:49

Fact or Fiction
 
Not even close on the 747-200 claim. Quoting from Joe Sutter's book '747'.

"The first 747-200B went to KLM in January 1971, and before that year was out, this model was also flying in the colours of Air India, Alitalia, Condor, El Al, JAL, Lufthansa, Northwest, Sabena, SAS, SAA, Swissair and Qantas."

Ahh, but maybe it was the first RR powered 747-200 ???

8d8

8d8 19th Aug 2014 06:56

Fact or Fiction
 
No. Wikipedia - Ba introduced the first RR powered 747 into service in 1977.

Old Fella 19th Aug 2014 07:00

CX first with RB211 powered B747
 
False again I'm afraid. Bristish Airways was the launch customer, in 1975, for RB211 powered B747's. Four aircraft fitted with RB211-524B engines.

Oval3Holer 19th Aug 2014 07:15

False again!

“We were the very first delivery customer for the 747-200 in 1979,” said Owen. “The 747 of Cathay has been a truly transformational piece of equipment allowing Cathay to grow from being a regional carrier in Asia to being an international carrier, allowing us to fly long-haul without stopping.”

Cathay Pacific Bids Farewell to the 747 at SFO

VR-HFX 19th Aug 2014 07:42

Cathay was the first airline to be the victim of air piracy and hijacking when VR-HDT was overrun by pirates and crashed on a flight from Macao on 16 July, 1948. True or False?

ACMS 19th Aug 2014 08:00

777-200 N77701 now B-HNL first 777 built
777-300 B-HNE first 300 built
777-300 B-HNQ last 300 built

A330 B-HLJ now the oldest in the world, number 12 build. Now KA, originally a GE powered Airbus test Aircraft. ( although there is some conflicting info on that )

broadband circuit 19th Aug 2014 08:05

Cathay were the first airline to mercilessly sack 49 pilots for obviously industrial issues, but claim they were given 3 months' notice for "no particular reason"

Fact or Fiction???

Basil 19th Aug 2014 08:22

Cathay trainers gave freighter DEC pilots 'special treatment' - fact or fiction? :E

Sand Man 19th Aug 2014 08:51

Cathay invented aviation

True or False

Old Fella 19th Aug 2014 08:53

First delivery of B747-200
 
Cathay were not the first to take delivery of a B747-200 in 1979. In fact their first B747-200 arrived in Hong Kong on 31 July 1979.

Old Fella 19th Aug 2014 09:07

First Hijack of an aircraft
 
VR-HFX, you are correct. "Miss Macoa", a Catalina PBY, was enroute from Macau to Hong Kong when hijacked. Gold Bullion was believed to be the incentive.


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