Meccano
 

Sounds like you've been hitting the booze. First off CX has vacated the AMS base due to labour laws it didn't like when it looked into onshoring that base which it appeared to have ignored for years, it's now closed ORY due to the same considerations as well as social security/tax issues, and also having to change their employment methods on its Australian and Canadian bases. I believe CX also lost a court case against a former employee where the company tried to claim that its UK employees were not subject to UK law. As well as your beloved RYR seeming to be having troubles in France on one or more of its French bases.

You still think companies can do as they please? I suppose they can if they employ lay down and rollover types such as yourself.

If a company has a presence where it bases its employees it's likely to be subject to that countries employment law, not always depending on the circumstances, but mostly.

I'm pretty sure the UN has less enforcement clout than the nations involved. I'm just saying...

Dear Junior Whopper
 

I don't know what tax CX crews in those countries are paying, I do know that in Australia, Canada and I'm pretty sure in the UK that CX crews are paying resident tax based on their CX income, with credit given for whatever HK tax is payed. If you paid any attention in the past on this you would know about the complaints on this from CX crew.:bored:

As an aside, as cxorcist has stated WTF does the UN have to do with it. In addition, some advice, don't give up your day job to be a lawyer!:eek: Your second last para is sort of wacky, you mean the tax offices don't understand their own laws and whatever international obligations their govs have signed up to?

By the way, I hope you have an assistant to blame your response onto as you sort of shot yourself in the foot when there are CX crew having to pay tax in their based countries. :(

This is a bit of arse sucking after the above, you see I'm having a sort of disagreement with my country's tax office and you may have opened a door for me. If my gov has signed off completely on this UN convention it may be enforceable and therefor I'm not liable to pay tax on my earnings from HK. Big Mach can you state the full title etc of this convention?:ok:

Re: UN
 

What the UN says means jack**** depending!! Which is why I'm interested in whether Australia has signed up to that convention. Reason being is that back in the 80's (this is all a long distant memory) the Hawke/Keating gov signed up to some UN environmental treaty, then decided to ignore it regards any domestic issues that conflicted with said treaty, a number of environmental groups didn't like this and took the gov to court, I believe it went all the way to the high court with the result that it was legally binding on the gov as if domestic law. My memory I add once more!

Re the convention I'd point out the section that starts "Contracting States MAY agree etc. etc. and as you pointed out some countries don't have any tax agreement with HK. According to the advice from a tax lawyer I consulted recently, the ATO considers HK to be not much better than the Cook Islands!! That's his opinion of the ATO's view of course.

What I would add is that the UN doesn't make law as countries are sovereign states, countries may chose to ratify treaties/conventions etc and how that impacts domestically I guess depends on that country's laws.

The UN is a joke that ought to be disbanded for being a total waste of time and space. Just about every country in the world with even the smallest set of cajones is willing to thumb their nose at the UN. As if the planet needs another governing body, aren't our respective national governments bad enough? Why add another layer of BS to the outragiously overpriced layers of bureaucracy already in place? I don't want to pay for that crap. More big government is not the answer, obviously!

Rod,

I like a lot of your posts, but on this topic - I totally disagree.

Who is it with great intentions and objectives?

Great, but I'd rather have that portion of my taxes in my pocket.

UN
 

Is this the same organisation that's debating whether to have blasphemy laws recommended for all signatory countries?