Africa...
 

Seven Of The World's 10 Fastest-Growing Economies Are African - Business Insider

.......but let's not fly there!
:ugh::ugh::ugh:

Yes, lets not. From my experiences, most of it between South Africa and the Mediterranean is best avoided.

Amen to that.

I won't be holding my breath.

They don't have the crew, anyway. Another 'missed opportunity'.

Recruitment policy is a shambles. The crewing situation is now so bad that a friend of mine was recently called while on leave and asked to 'help out, we're desperate'. Of course he continued enjoying his leave.

It really is time that someone is held accountable.

Shame, I think the Crewing Manager retires next month!

Overuse of 'A' days and the fact that most people are a bit sharper about the requirements ie 'The time is now 0900, so I will report for duty in ten hours' is rarely what crew control want. If they require standby crews then they must PAY FOR THEM!
Available is a freebee so please do only what is written.:ok:

Dan, I guess you're right. Let's turn a blind eye to the money that can be made serving a continent bigger than the US, China and Europe combined and add another daily LA rotation instead!
And of course, there'd be no point in looking for freighter opportunities on a continent who's economies are booming on the back of massive resources wealth, mining, farming etc....no, far better looking for cherry shipments out of San Francisco!
Yep, definitely a place to avoid in "big picture" terms. Sustainability is best found in dwindling markets and depressed economies.....:ok:

Kasompe
Whilst I agree that Agrica is the size of the thee continents you mentioned, I have to disagree regarding the " quality" of business". That said I hope that the " black continent" will be considered freighter wise. I spent too many days there and at times is not fun believe me. Yet I hope for a change.
Your friend

PA

''Dan, I guess you're right. Let's turn a blind eye to the money that can be made serving a continent bigger than the US, China and Europe combined and add another daily LA rotation instead!''

I'm not adverse to money being made. I just don't want to be the one to go there to make it!






Night stop Lagos anyone?

Entebbe and Lagos. the glamour of the job keeps getting better. :ok:

Go for it Kasompe...

Dan, if CC can be so kind as to put us in the same hotel and floor as the Virgin Atlantic Girls, then I may reconsider.

Sheraton Lagos for Virgin hostesses .. Box ticked :ok:
Only redeeming thing from that trip.

Classy :yuk:

Dan, I wholly agree with you regarding the nightstopping..... Although I think you may be surprised at how far some of the places have come in recent years.
But my point, really, is that Africa is booming, and perhaps the powers that be in CX would be better placed looking for opportunities there rather than concentrating solely on areas with struggling economies.
As for quality of market, well, Africa is by and large cash driven and there is also a prestige or image associated with this new wealth. There is no shortage of Premium class passenger in Africa nowadays, and they are not paying on credit. In Africa, cash is king.
To my mind, business is business, and whilst airlines such as Emirates, Qatar, KLM, BA, Air France etc, as well as African airlines such as Ethiopian and Kenya Airways are all exploiting this new era of growth, CX sits idly by with its managers opining the lack of new opportunities and sobbing over the lack of money in cargo!
But, just my two cents worth!:ok:

Spoke to a friend at EK the other day. He told me that Luanda in Angola is their most profitable destination.

......and after New York, apparently Lagos is BA's most profitable route.
CX is definitely missing the boat. :ugh:

Africa should be a go, pick and choose a number of destinations. The Chinese national oil company has a significant investments there, lots of Chinese businessman and workers going there, all going via EK.

Ever been to T2 ? see the amount of excess baggage those guys carry on the EK flights ?

The hotels are not that bad, I think we would have worse around the region.

@Frogman1484

I did hear that about 2 years ago, someone (I believe it wad the GMO) passengered on the JoBurg flight and then traveled onto Luanda to discuss possible flights.

Seems that nothing came of it, except maybe a bit of hand wringing (as usual).

We are in the process of evaluating our newest project, codename: TIA (This Is Africa).

We are looking at the numbers for converting our B747-4’s to a combi configuration and serving the African Continent. The B747-4 on a 9-10 hour mission will utilize the maximum weights of the aircraft and provide maximum profit.

This will still be classified as a Freighter Operation so we can utilize more of the Freighter Pilots. The aircraft will be fitted with approximately 100 seats but will be finalized after our study.

The scope clause at The CPG is now null and void so we will classify the operation as freighter class.

Firstly we are looking at 3-4 times per week, so some duty cycles will be extended somewhat especially for those over manned freighter bases that did not sign the PX agreement. We will look at daily flights when the route becomes profitable.

There is a possibility we will sell our B747-4’s to a third party and The CPG will wet lease that company to fly its African operation

When the route becomes profitable, a dedicated passenger and freighter operation will begin.

These duty cycles will begin out of Hong Kong and the over manned based pilots (that did not sign) will be doing the majority of the flights. Due to range requirements of the route an interim fuel stop will be required in the Emirates this extending your duty cycle.

We are seeking approval from the CAD for extending the flight duty period to 20 hours for a two-sector day. If this is not granted it will be a two pilot operation from Hong Kong to The Emirates and then onto Africa.

Recruitment is looking at hiring direct entry first officers/second officers on a base in the Emirates region. The pilots COS will be based on local terms and conditions. Previous heavy jet command candidates may qualify our accelerated first officer to command course. We are sure many candidates in the region will want to fly shiny heavy jets for The CPG on local conditions.

Recruitment is also evaluating certain bases in the African Region with local based pilots on local conditions, which will lower our cost and increase our bonuses.

We believe the African Continent can be very profitable but we have some limiting factors at this time i.e. landing rights in the Emirates region and beyond, crewing, our pilot scheduling system to name but a few.

Africa will happen

To My Bonus
The Management