Missing the point perhaps?
 

Some of you are waffling on about experience, qualifications, good ole days, but this issue came to ahead because of one of the ole timer Trainer/checker plucked up on the circling approach becoming unstable. His dysfunctional bipolar personality got the better of him no doubt. Pot to Kettle, come in please!

Circling approaches like the old NDB approaches of old ( level off at MDA and then dive? ) have little place in modern day long haul operations in big heavies. In my old nippy B737-200 days I did hundreds if not thousands of those; it was highly sporty and exhilarating. Now on the big heavy 744 crossing many time zones with big sleep deficit, it would be insanely suicidal to do those kind of stuff.

All those who boast of their superior manual flying skills are just full of hot air or just too full of themselves. When I did those circling and old style NDB approaches, I was young flying a very responsive sporty narrow body jet doing mainly domestic fields which I knew like the back of my hand. I was also always well rested with no time zone induced jet lag. Different ball game now on long haul heavy jets to airfields I fly to maybe once or twice before.

Yet Dragon does on a scheduled basis with a A320
back of the clock on a 2 man Return 11hr duty.. Safety indeed.

Tricky if you don't have an ADF, and most new passenger jet aircraft don't nowadays ...

Sorry, I don't frequent FH all that often but the circling approach thread title sucked me in. I think the things should be banned............

But I was just wondering, does your date still clench whenever you fly one no matter how experienced you are? Every one of the bastards I flew (at night mainly) gave me the irrits........

Whooops :oh: put the mocka on this one eh?

1. Manual landings.......:=

If a certain Zimbo can't do a circling approach it must be impossible because he was brilliant. He said so!:ok:

In 15+ years at CX I have flown one circling approach. It's no longer required and won't be missed.

This thread is about circling approaches. In a typical FH trait, it has drifted off topic into a Primary School classroom. All our gallant leaders need to do is to read the rubbish written above and, with some justification, decide that we're not too bright and they can do and say what they like to us.
Grow up for goodness sake!:mad:

Umm. They decided that a long time ago. They can do and say what they like to us. And we take it like the good little prostitutes we are.