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Cavallier 15th Jan 2012 10:23

Feb Roster
 
Well it arrived on time and I actually managed to access it via the intranet without it crashing. That is as good as it got as I have never in 6 years seen such an appalling roster. 10 G days 4 PX sectors and a grand total of 78 hours. Maybe it was just me I thought :ooh: , no checked the master roster of Hong Kong based 400 crew and on average those without leave are between 10-13 G days!!!

Apologies for rant but needed to let off steam as the mrs is currently out and the cat is hiding behind the sofa!!! I better enjoy the two WHOLE weeks of leave I have had approved.

The Cav:cool:

Sir KDM Lowe 15th Jan 2012 15:18


...enjoy the two WHOLE weeks of leave I have had approved.
Until they cancel your leave. A few guys have had theirs withdrawn already. And the leave year hasn't started yet. I wonder when enough will be enough?

F_one 15th Jan 2012 20:35

Rostered 89 hours.
9 G days.
One of the crappiest I've ever seen.

Fr8t M8te 15th Jan 2012 21:48

Hands up anyone who thinks it is going to get better?

:yuk:

AAIGUY 15th Jan 2012 22:07

Everyone going sick on one random trip would sort them.
Sadly, that cohesiveness is lacking in Hong Kong crew

Blogsey 16th Jan 2012 08:08

20 days off, 81 credit hours. Stop yer whingin....

yi gung chek gei yuk 16th Jan 2012 09:46

Blogs,

Judging by your username ( yobbo's can never finish a proper name / city name / meal name / car name etc etc, without ending it in "sey" / "sy")
and completely ignoring your location, Im gonna bite and take a stab at the fact that you just might be based, or a commuter, and not just temporarily in "Aus"

Either way, I'm thrilled to know that we, as HK based crew, can give you our completely unnecessary g days so that you can enjoy your 3-time / mo "up and back", 81 credit hrs, and 21 g days.

Enjoy that double taxation!!!

yi gung chek gei yuk 16th Jan 2012 09:48

oooops....20 G days.

I have no idea how you manage!!!

kmagyoyo 16th Jan 2012 23:11

Melbourne based, 10G days for 85 credit hours. Its not all roses on the base either. Cough.

Blogsey 17th Jan 2012 00:06

I'm sorry, did I say 20 G's?

Dirty Lungs 17th Jan 2012 04:07

Divide and conquer
 
Nice one, yi gung chek gei yuk

keep facilitating that divide/conquer, us/them mentality. You play so well into management hands...why don't you get your sweaty hands away from the keyboard, grab an nice cold one and chill?
Jeez, some of you guys are holding on too tight. So the guy got a great roster - be happy for him!
Ooops, beer calling..... :)

poydras 17th Jan 2012 09:26

Mine is not a roster. it is rather a death sentence.
Let's enjoy the video at least.


nitpicker330 17th Jan 2012 12:37

Good Video. :ok:

711 17th Jan 2012 13:35

Dirty Lungs is spot on.

A bad roster is definetely not the result of somebody else having a better one.

I find it quite irritating, to see more and more guys accusing fellow pilots of beeing responsible for what is in reality the result of CX management.

RA65, A/B/C scale, basings, DFO/SFO entry, etc etc.

We need to concentrate and bundle our energy. However frustrating it might be at times, our ONLY chance is to stay united, and the best way is still a membership in the AOL. Amen.

pasa001 17th Jan 2012 22:42

Sweet Video! looks like Avianca in Columbia.

Iron Skillet 18th Jan 2012 01:48

Filmed at Rio de Janeiro's Galeao, several of the city's beaches, including Copacabana and Ipanema, as well as Sugarloaf Mountain (Pao de Acucar) and the huge Jesus on the hill (Christo Redentor) are all visible.

Sqwak7700 18th Jan 2012 05:15


Sweet Video! looks like Avianca in Columbia.
Negative. More like TAM in SBRJ, Rio's Santos Dumont. There are also some shots of Conghonas as well.

Then again, it could be Avianca Brazil. They also operate some buses and they look just like Avianca's but with a brazilian flag on the tail.

Anyways, a bit of thread drift here. :O

Bob Hawke 18th Jan 2012 06:19

Avianca it is. The cup in the cup holder says it all.

Blue Bag Bitch 19th Jan 2012 22:50

Nothing's going to change until freighters start sitting on the ramp in outports for 24+ hours due to lack of crew. :hmm:

Dan Winterland 20th Jan 2012 01:35

Santos Dumont and Sao Paulo Conhonguas. But what's he doing with that stick? I was told you should treat the side stick like your mate's dick - touch it as little as possible. He handling it like it was his own!

nitpicker330 20th Jan 2012 02:39

LOL :DJ:ok:

jed_thrust 20th Jan 2012 03:15

Dan,

Thank goodness you brought that up: I thought it was just me...

Maybe in a typhoon on 25L, but on that lovely day?! And what about the armrest - his elbow is in the air most of the time!

SloppyJoe 20th Jan 2012 08:44



For those who prefer a yoke

404 Titan 20th Jan 2012 12:25

This guy must like his mug on YouTube. A320 he likes to stir the pot. F100 he doesn’t like to de-rotate.

White None 25th Jan 2012 03:10

Confused
 
Please don't think I'm taking the Mick or playing Devils Advocate, I'm not. Going back to the point, someone gave the statistic 10-13 G days average for HKG 400 driver - My question....Is that bad??

broadband circuit 25th Jan 2012 03:37

No, 10-13 G is not bad. What is usually bad is the duties in between the G days.

Nth American freighter patterns for HK based crew may as well read as a line of reserve. They know the day they are leaving, and that's about it. Their rostered return flight is usually followed by O days, so their return date is not even a sure thing.

White None 25th Jan 2012 03:59

Despite this being my 2nd Pruning, I'm aware of the NA patterns, life of HKG crews etc. My question, now somewhat more specific is: against what current yardstick do WE think this is bad?

Bob Hawke 25th Jan 2012 04:05

The passenger fleet, before there was integrated flying of both.

White None 25th Jan 2012 04:19

Agreed Bob, but ... "Current Yardstick" ... Honestly Fellas 10/10 for anyone optimistic enough to think we can go back to the way many things used to be, and maybe the outflow venting seen on these pages is a cathartic experience for some; however, when my last medical ended up in a long discussion with the Doc about how they should best advise the younger guys coming in who are so angry and stressed then you have to wonder whether we should look outwards not inwards and realize we're just not that badly off?
Okay - taking cover now. :O

cxorcist 25th Jan 2012 05:32

bc,

Did you forget, "freighters are rostered exactly the same as passenger pilots". It's just the disruptions and 12 day patterns that are different.

How can they even say that and keep a straight face?

broadband circuit 25th Jan 2012 15:07

I'm shocked that you're even surprised at their sheer contempt cxorcist.

Bob Hawke 30th Jan 2012 01:22

Yes, any commonality between the published roster and the real time roster at the end of the month is purely coincidential, on the freighter.


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