errr ! read the post. Enough said. :ugh:

What is the deal with deciding to move away from HK, especially to a place like SIN, is it as simple as renting a house and thats it, or is there visa requirements etc for HKID holders?

I did that's why I asked the question. Your point on housing makes no sense and not all commuters ask for W patterns.:)

Eyes on the ball gents!
 

Amazing how any more than a few CX pilots posting on PPrune inevitably means the thread deteriorating into A-scale vs B-scale bash, Freight vs Pax, DEFO vs DESO, and now based vs HKG... :ugh:

Sure, the world would be wonderful if everyone else saw things exactly your way, but that's not the way it works. A based guy could easily argue that thanks to a superior lifestyle back home, proximity to kids/family etc, or already having a house prior to joining CX etc etc, there is no need to come to HKG and make one's loved ones breathe the poisonous air. A lot of them pay a lot less tax than you might think.

The point here is that (as always) our COS are under attack, not by based guys, but BY THE COMPANY. Even if based, I would vote to protect your HKG-expat conditions (and to ensure the same conditions for future joiners in HK); would you vote to protect/improve conditions for based guys?

The deal based guys take obviously works for them... instead of whinging about them, why not all pull together in the same direction? Oh yeah that's right, because we're a bunch of moaning CX pilots, and it's always the next guy's fault... :ugh:

Wow, it only took 16 posts to degenerate into a mudslinging match about one pilot group undermining the others conditions, or maybe I should be impressed that we got that far?

Anyway....thanks for the useful info to those that provided it, especially to spleener for that website. It is far easier to traverse than the Thai immigration one.

As far as I can tell this thread only refers to ONE pilot group ie. Hong Kong based officers placing their families in another country while they still work out of Hong Kong with full benefits. So as I said how is this group "degrading everybody else's conditions"?:confused:

What have based pilots got to do with it? Maybe start your own thread.:sad:

I still dont get how commuting degrades anything. I would still be taking advantage of the housing in HK. It would just sit empty, minus days I needed to be there. Your comment makes no sense Kurtis.

Considering CX make money out of staff travel I would say that commuters are doing everyone a favour:}

Roxy, are you serious ????? Were you not on another thread saying you were coming to HKG as a cadet ? seriously, you will be struggling to survive here in HKG let alone commuting.
To answer your question I am pretty sure you cant just live in SIN full time as an expat if you are not employed there, could be, and probably am, wrong.
BTW, Capt Parker is still on the hunt I believe

Yah why does it always desend into a school playground fight? and it's usualy btween a couple of regular guys/girls.

Well Sin is throwing their PR status at anybody as they decided they want 6 million ppl on the little red dot.Be warned quality of living for all the trappings not that good.Very congested as the infastructure not ready for that many.

How about Bali ? only 4 hrs and the ultimate chill dest.

I know of a few colleagues having a ball there.

Ps Cx counter staff there extremenly professional helpful...

Loiter 1,

I'm sure you are feeling as sad as I do. A sincere question to explore better lifestyle turned into mud slinging by some idiots especially Kurtis! I hope someone earning half his pay could derail him from his job,soon!:sad:

Here is an option for you. Try explore Kota Kinabalu,Sabah, in Malaysia.(WBKK or BKI). It is 3hours fly to the south from HKG. Dragon Air,MAS,Transasia(TPE/KHH)etc serves once daily if I'm not wrong. There are like 20 flights to Kuala Lumpur a day, 2~3 times to Singapore.

Town by the sea, 30mins boat ride to 4 islands for the beaches and looking back at the town with Mt.Kinabalu sitting at 13000ft at the back.Sunset by the beach is something money can't buy. A drive up to the 5500ft mountain national park is 2hrs. Climbing the peak is a bit of an effort though.

Food is reasonably cheap if you learn to avoid Scandinavian tourist come all the way to eat Canadian lobster! Many expates family live here. Some hubby work in Singapore,Brunei....I knew an American golf course consultant work in China and put the family there. Family never want to go back to te States! There are also some locals girls working as CX cabin crew shuttle up to HKG.

There are some very good privite schools. Security wise,it is safe foreigners. Have a walk in the town at 2am, no bad guy dare to rob the 'whiteman'. := Plenty of drinking places as the Sabahans drink like Aussies! Yes, this part of Malaysia is very much like Phuket. It is a favourite place for Korean to have their honey moon.Some times, 400+ Korean couples would arrive in 2 chartered B744s 10mins apart, bong for a week (Wife or golf)then head back.:}

It is also current being propel into a regional (BIMP EGA?-Brunei-Idonesia-Malaysia-Phillipies Economic Growth Area?)shopping hub by the Malaysia Government. Many hotels,golf courses,etcs are coming up. As it is, there are enough golf courses to keep you happy.

PM me if you want to know more.

Flightleader