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ron burgandy 25th Jun 2010 15:19

Intimidation?
 
Can someone please explain what is the purpose of publishing who has gone sick and where in the Friday update. As far as i can see the only reason is to make you think twice about reporting sick and finding your name as good as published in the Friday Pravda.:=

How about "due to our ridiculously tight rostering of minimum rest overnights there was no one able to crew a flight departing xxx on xxx"
But that would involve looking at the latent reasons these things happen, and that's not part of the CX program on rostering:ugh:

turnandburn 26th Jun 2010 01:09

Any publishing off details that identify a persons medical condition without there consent is in breach of the privacy ordinance I believe.

geh065 26th Jun 2010 06:29

It isn't intimidation. It let's us know that there are others out there who aren't afraid to call in sick even if it disrupts a flight so that when we ourselves feel I'll, we shouldn't think twice about reporting sick. Afterall, that's the safe thing to do right?

Fly747 26th Jun 2010 07:44

Law too!
 
If you are sick then it is not only the right thing to do but it also happens to be law too not to operate when unfit to do so.

Johnny Drama 26th Jun 2010 11:42

Where exactly is it published?

AAIGUY 26th Jun 2010 16:19

DFO update.. intracx.

I agree.. its proof its not just ME calling in sick.. Don't be afraid.

If you're sick down route.. fu*k em'.. you're legally obligated to call in sick.
It's time to get off this minimum manning.

ecosystem 27th Jun 2010 01:34

Grass not so green eh aaiguy?

Capt Toss Parker 27th Jun 2010 03:00

Now that "Dick Hall" is the big man on campus he'll be ramping up the intimidation through his lies and deception.

Just because he speaks with a plum in his mouth don't assume he's a gentleman.

Captain Dart 27th Jun 2010 07:58

For once I agree with Captain Toss!

Ladies and gentlemen, please remember that this individual (along with the outgoing incumbent), was a Star Chamber member, a participant in a cowardly act of pilot against pilot, which was designed to intimidate Cathay Pacific flight crew. Does a leopard change its spots???

FlexibleResponse 2nd Jul 2010 11:21

I wonder how the local admin and management staff would react if their names were published each Friday to all and sundry for reporting sick?

Subwoofer 2nd Jul 2010 17:49

Although I don't like that people are being identified (the DFO could just have easily said "a pilot" rather than "the FO"), I do think that if intimidation is his aim, it's backfiring. Just by publishing these delays due to guys calling in sick, it shows that we don't have enough crews (we don't have an FO in MEL??) and we have a bit of bargaining power come pay talk time. Don't be afraid to call in sick!

Loiter1 2nd Jul 2010 20:39

I am less worried with the new DFO than the new GMA.

I don't think there is any coincidence in the fact that Cathay have moved one of their chief industrial relations headkickers into this role as we approach a perfect storm of negotiations. FTLs, pay rise , housing, on-shoring, bypass pay case etc etc

The guy isn't even a pilot, making it far easier to slash and burn with not even the little bit of remorse an ex-pilot would have. Intimidation will be the name of the game and he will have no qualms in using it. Remember the thinly veiled threats when they asked for 'volunteers' for SLS.

onprofile 3rd Jul 2010 02:29

To have or have not.
 
Grow a pair guys and stand up for your rights.

Captain Dart 3rd Jul 2010 02:35

I too have noticed the not-so-subtle change in reporting sickness delays in recent Friday updates. It used to be 'CX XYZ was delayed due to crew sickness', but now it specifies crew member rank.

Innocuous, or maybe the start of what the military call 'psy-ops'?

A Scaler 3rd Jul 2010 08:43

I guess you have to bother reading the Friday report in the first place...

Bob Hawke 3rd Jul 2010 10:16

Why is it an issue?
 
I can't see why it's an issue, when there is an ACTUAL delay to the flight, irrespective of the reason, technical, personnel, weather, whatever! Put it into perspective. Sure the company has issues with some people going sick and some have issues with the company and go sick, but I don't think that was the intent of the Update, no other than to show there was a genuine delay.

arse 7th Jul 2010 10:51

Coherent Sentence
 
That SO needs to put the following words into a coherent sentence:

dick weak harden you up

Capt Toss Parker 7th Jul 2010 12:05

Hmmmm I remember that young lad who went sick at the last minute ..... that's ok I'll just hunt him down in the sim :ugh:

Gnadenburg 7th Jul 2010 15:55

Yes. Hard culture. CX employees look like their off to a gas chamber when you share the weekend bus with them. A fateful silence. Except for the odd North American crew down the back.

Cactusjack 8th Jul 2010 04:35

Does anyone know what the pay scale is for the currently advertised Safety Investigator position ?? PM me if you like.


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