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SIC 28th Aug 2009 03:34

HAS bus crash
 
Firstly - my sympathy to the families of the deceased. It is sad to see people die unneccesarily.


Now this :


As a precaution, the company has initiated immediate mechanical checks for all the other 28-seater buses in its fleet.
May I suggest the company does some driver training. The average bus driver in Hong Kong suffers from a pathetic level of inability.

Better yet - replace them with women. I have had the pleasure of being in a few buses driven by women recently and the difference was phenomenal. Quiet, non agressive, smooth, paced with traffic etc etc.

Same goes for taxi drivers.

Flaps10 28th Aug 2009 03:45

Care to elaborate?

sony 28th Aug 2009 03:47

My thoughts are with the family of the deceased. I hope those that are injured recover well.

Subwoofer 28th Aug 2009 04:02

Original Article:

Three people have been killed and 22 others injured after a bus crashed on the North Lantau Highway early this morning. The 46-year-old driver has been arrested on suspicion of dangerous driving. The police said that the Hong Kong Airport Services vehicle was carrying off-duty ground staff home when the driver appeared to lose control and swerved into a railing before overturning. Many passengers, who were believed to have been sleeping on the vehicle after working overnight, were trapped underneath the bus and had to be freed by firefighters.

crwjerk 28th Aug 2009 04:17

Tragedy as HAS bus crashes on North Lantau Highway
Posted On: 28 Aug 2009
A bus operated by Hong Kong Airport Services Ltd (HAS) was involved in a fatal accident on the North Lantau Highway this morning, killing three of those onboard and injuring a further 22 people.

The 28-seater bus was carrying HAS staff from the 4am shift change at Hong Kong International Airport.

HAS staff were at the scene soon after, with others going to the Yan Chai and Princess Margaret Hospitals to help the families of the deceased and to give whatever assistance they could to the injured and their families.

In a message to staff, HAS Managing Director Clement Lam said: “We are all deeply shocked and saddened by this morning’s accident on the North Lantau Highway involving one of our buses. It pains me to say that three of our colleagues lost their lives in the accident and many others were injured.

“On behalf of HAS I would like to send sincere condolences to the families of the deceased. Our immediate thoughts and sympathies also go to all our injured colleagues and their families.”

An investigation is now underway at the scene of the accident and HAS is doing all it can to assist the police in their work and cooperate in every way possible.

The company is providing financial support to the families of each of the deceased and we will also do what it can to help everyone injured in the accident. It will also provide counselling through the Employee Assistance Programme for those who have been affected in any way by the tragedy.

As a precaution, the company has initiated immediate mechanical checks for all the other 28-seater buses in its fleet.

parabellum 28th Aug 2009 05:11

Same in Singapore, quite a few mad male bus drivers but the women were much smoother.

Cavallier 28th Aug 2009 05:11

I agree. Female cab drivers are by far the best. They seem to have alot more spatial awareness than their male counterparts.

The Cav:cool:

wayne_king 28th Aug 2009 05:59

Very sad news, perhaps the mechanical checks will reveal a distinct lack of seat belts for a start........:ugh:

C172Driver 28th Aug 2009 09:14

Condolences to the family and friends of the deceased. It's very sad to hear this happen. Hopefully they will install and make it mandatory to wear seatbelts on these buses, as others have said.

moosp 28th Aug 2009 10:30

Maybe fell asleep at the wheel, it happens.

Specially at that time of the morning. Hope the coroner looks into his shift pattern.

Liam Gallagher 28th Aug 2009 10:42

I disagree with most posted above
 
My deepest sympathies to all concerned.

I have always enjoyed very high standards of care and attention from HAS drivers and I am embarrassed by some of the previous comments. Had this been an "air" incident, I am sure we would all be appalled by utter unfounded speculation as to the cause of the incident. Kindly treat others how you would wish to be treated.

I am very shocked and saddened to read of this news.

geh065 28th Aug 2009 10:43

I think it is about time the government mandates speed limiters on all public transport. We have all been in a taxi or bus which is going way too fast. Sadly these bus accidents happen all too often and no doubt this will not be the last.

SIC 28th Aug 2009 12:17

Liam - no matter what you think - I am willing to bet the vast majority of us do not feel safe with the way HKG professional drivers drive.

Something needs to be done about their lack of skill.

I am sick and tired of sliding around in the back of a taxi like a sack of potatoes. My wife gets motion sickness in most buses due to the way they are on and off the accelerators like its a bicycle pedal.

In the past year there has been a spate of accidents where passengers were killed and every single one of them was due to incompetent drivers.

I started this thread mainly to point out that HAS 's ridiculous idea to check all their vehicles is not exactly dealing with the problem. Even if the tragic accident yesterday turns out to be due to a technical failure.

And that female drivers are MUCH better.

jonathon68 28th Aug 2009 12:28

Seat-belts would be a good start as well....

BusyB 28th Aug 2009 12:44

Liam,
Whilst most of the drivers are nice people that does not make the transport safe. How many times have you sat with the aisles stuffed with cases (illegal under HKG law) sliding around on corners and roundabouts. Should be seatbelts for all and baggage in a separate compartment.:ok:

My sympathies are with all those affected by this accident.

Shot Nancy 28th Aug 2009 14:24

Condolences to those affected.

NoAndThen 29th Aug 2009 01:33

SCMP - Passengers warned driver to slow down
 
Passengers warned driver to slow down
Martin Wong and Anita Lam
Updated on Aug 29, 2009

"We told the driver three times we were about to crash but he did not respond to us," one survivor recalled.
The survivor, who was in shock, said the driver had been driving "strangely" before the crash. "The bus was in the middle of the three-lane carriageway when it started swerving into the left then right lane over about 600 metres ... there were no other vehicles on the road. Some passengers who were sleeping were jolted awake.

"We shouted at him as we sensed something was wrong but he did not react."

Senior Inspector Kiang Kwok-ming said police were considering several possibilities, including whether the driver fell asleep. "We are also inspecting the structure and the speed of the vehicle, the mental condition of the driver and situation of the road, in a bid to learn the cause of the accident," he said.

He said the speed limit on the North Lantau Highway was 110km/h for cars but 70km/h for large vehicles such as the bus. "Some witnesses said the bus was speeding, but we do not know if it is true," he said.

Senior Inspector Kiang said the bus had a flat tyre but it was not known whether it burst before, during or after the accident. "What we can say is that the tyre marks started about 200 metres away from where the bus flipped on its side," he said.

Family members of the three victims attended an offering ceremony at the scene at 4pm.

Their employer, Hong Kong Airport Services, gave each of the families HK$150,000 for funeral expenses.

They also received HK$8,000 from a government emergency fund.

Permanent Secretary for Labour and Welfare Cherry Tse Ling Kit-ching said department officers had contacted the families to offer assistance.

She said that the families of the three people killed in the accident might receive as much as HK$1.7 million in compensation, because it was considered that the accident had happened while they were working.

The injured workers were entitled to sick leave and could get HK$200 a day in medical subsidies.

SIC 29th Aug 2009 01:48

very considerate of the reporter to focus so much on exactly how much money everyone will make from this. After all money solves all problems and heals all wounds.

crwjerk 29th Aug 2009 02:30

Sounds like he fell asleep or was tired. It was 4am after all. And it is a CX subsidiary.

badairsucker 1st Sep 2009 07:11

I've been in a cab with her........Scary!!!!!!!!!!!


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