DFO's Letter to Crew
 

New contract out on Monday. 65 here we come..read about in Crew Direct

Significant pay cut for COS99 FOs and a significant pay increase for DECs to the current B scale (unified pax and freight scales for CNs)...that seems fair. On top of that command time heads towards the horizon.

Great timing. Get completely shafted twice at the same time.

am i reading this correctly...that those who took early commands on the freighter will now be on B scale command salary?

i am just hoping that i am mis-reading this!

Don't forget the DECs, especially the ones that left CX with huge p funds and the BA guys with very nice pensions.

Fly pax too
 

As I read it the freighter DECs will now be flying pax too and getting a pay rise.

oh boy...........this just gets better and better..........................:(

Yep, they'll be flying pax, getting a raise, and most importantly, they're not moving from their base, for... uhhh... forever. In effect they just jumped way out of seniority to take your based pax captain slot.

Good luck everyone

If I'd known I would have taken a 400 Freighter base in SYD 2 years ago.

This is just bull ****.

Surely the AOA MUST put it to a vote.???

STANDBY GUYS! lets here from the GC first - the DFO could be using this as a union busting manoever or has other more dubious motives- I dont trust the man or the company he keeps!!!!! I am not defending a potentially bad AOA decision, all I am saying is dont be suckered in by the Swire-gods...... TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY.

AFL

This Was Not Agreed To By The Aoa Gc.
This Is Another Attempt To Divide The Pilot Body.
Do Not Over React And Wait For The Gc Missive.

From the AOA

Everyone should re read the AOA's comment above very carefully.

The AOA has not announced their recommendation to the Pilot body yet. Are we all going to trust the word of NR?

They have warned against signing any offer from CX mis-management.

The AOA will be in contact with its members over the weekend.

I am honestly perplexed by the behaviour of Management.
Before starting at CX, we "common mortal of small company", saw CX as an Elite, unshakeable company.Well after seeing and hearing the weekly updates I am less impressed with the CX style.I do understand that CX is NOT a state sponsored airline but I can tell you that the continous depressing news and memos altoghether with "a new contract" decided overnight won' t happen at Lufthansa or even at "lesser" prestigious companies.

I do not think that the AoA has much of a choice on this thing. Doesn't sound as if there will be a vote, just a choice left up to the individual.

Dear Flaps 10,

Please read post #16 by Harbour Dweller or re read your email from the AOA. Good luck.

Flaps 10
Slow down mate!!! Nothing has been given away yet mate. Now take three deep breaths and calm down. Paranoia can be contagious.

MACH.88:cool:

Break the AOA
 

What do you guys mean by 'break the AOA'? Nigel did that! The AOA has been broken since the 49ers. To be effective a union needs to have over 95% membership.

Would you really want to work an extra 10 years for a company that takes this type of opportunistic approach to labour relations, and not for the first time I might add.
The clouding of the two separate issues of SLS and age 65 by trying to link the two together with the thinly veiled threat that people not supporting the scheme do not have the best interest of the company at heart.
Whether you support the idea of SLS or not is personal preference but it is time critical to be of any effect so yeah lets get everyone's decision on that but age 65 can be be dealt with in due course why do we need to decide on that at the same time with some weird SLS discount if you sign one way or the other. Diabolical stuff!

Diabolical stuff indeed! You have just described the past 15 years of management tactics. Everyone should use this latest event to evaluate what type of career they want to commit themselves to. I can assure you that this type of morally vacuous behavior is something that will always be part of your career at CX. Cathay can and will change your conditions at will. They have learned over the past years that there is really no cost to doing so. For those of you who are 35ish or younger, I would strongly suggest you consider a career with a proper airline, in a country that has a strong labor code. CX traps you here with just enough money when you start to make it attractive, then slowly erodes your pay and conditions as the years go by. Eventually you find you are trapped, and have to accept a rather bitter and unsatisfying existance (well done CX mgmt, you have emulated the worst examples of corporate mgmt). If you don't like what you are seeing....be in no doubt that you will see it again and again. Get out now if you can. ps. this time CX mgmt have really outdone themselves in the sheer unfairness of the consequences to individuals and their expected career conditions. Unbelievable. :sad:

Question re 65
 

If all the captains sign over to get age 65 (which would make sense for them all) then theoretically none will be extending past 55. If no-one is "extending" then my thought is no bypass pay will be paid and there is benefit to F/O's staying on COS 99. True or false?