CX Direct Entry Capt
 

It's started, CX has hired the first couple of Direct Entry Captains to fly the 747-400! Ex OA pilots not spending a day as an FO. Bypass pay for those delayed a Command course...not a chance. What does the AOA say...apparently not much!:mad::mad:

On the 744F ? or Pax?

Started? This has been going on for years. Don't kid yourself. We had a bunch of DE Skippers start Jan 08. But it was happening on a small scale basis well before that any way.

Has anyone heard the numbers?

I was spooled up for a course in the fall - Still looks like the fall alright - of 09 or 10!

...uh, it's been happening since 94'. Have we forgotten about our ASL brothers who were hired directly into the left seat? The latest affront is more serious, as we now have a 'unified' fleet (no separate freighter fleet as in ASL). The basic facts are that any semblance of a seniority protected career in CX are over. Those of you young enough to consider another career choice may need to assess your options.

It's time!
 

DEC's are the way to the future! All this archaic practice of starting like an apprentice working your way up in servility has no place in the modern world. This semi feudalistic practice and the equally obsolete seniority system are the bane of the industry which the airline management make use to the fullest, to the detriment of pilots world wide.

jando, I'm sure the FO's will agree with you.:yuk:

It has been happening for a while on the Classic as no one wanted to take a command on the classic but these are the FIRST to join the 400 fleet as a DEC on the CX list. I have no problem accepting the necessity of DEC but pay the bypass pay for those already CAT A'd waiting for a command course!

CPdude.....exactly what 'necessity' is there to accept DEC's on the 400..?

First Oasis RC (rapid Commanders) hit the streets on 6th June. Rumour on the 3rd floor is that they received 100 app's all are being considered. 40 RC positions will be offered mostly in HKG on HKG roster on LEP terms on 744 (since there is no more freighter crewing agreement in place - you know what that means).

First to be offered positions are those who are "recency critical" and G O$$ was amongst the top of that list.

Seems like its jobs for buddies and taking the dinosaurs first!

I would sincerely like to thank NR and PW for giving me the finger yet again!

AFL

CX Direct Entry Captains
 

Apple Tree Yard I guess CX management has seen an opportunity to save a few dollars by hiring current captains direct to the -400. CX was built on being "smart" with the financial side of the business and if they had not they would not be around today. If the pilots being hired directly to the left seat have a past history with CX that, I would guess, is a plus for both the pilot and the company. For one who has only good memories of my time with CX I find it sad that there seems to be so much unhappiness in the company at the present time. Plenty of opportunities down here in Oz if it gets too much to cope with in HK.

ATY,

The "necessity" is the shortage of 400 Captains...I'm just saying if you want to skip the normal process then pay compensation to those you hurt!:ok:

ATY,

irony
a method of humorous or subtly sarcastic expression in which the intended meaning of the words is the direct opposite of their usual sense

at least I think that's what jandakotcruiser was up to :)

Have put this on another thread so excuse me.
Is the current DEC the same person who has a nomination in for the G.C??
Dont spose that is ironic is it??

As always, the bottom line is that the management will do whatever the management want to do...

...unless they are taken to task by the employees.

End of story...

Fenwicksgirl,

And who do we have to blame for this? Cathay or us for allowing it and doing nothing like the gutless bunch we all are?

Finally someone has woken up to the fact that this is happening,
:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::=:=:=:=:

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errr. Who's fault is that?

popadom,

If they are "less junior" whats the problem? Did you want a freighter command? If you did and satisfy the * chamber you should get one.:ok:

BusyB - AOA current committee - zzzt - part of the problem not the solution.

Just curious to know if the KA boys are going to get the same reaction? :ouch: