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ScratchF15 24th Mar 2008 20:18

US Tax Question
 
Fellow American Taxpayers-

I am just finishing my first year at CX and have a question regarding allowances. Do you claim them on your tax forms? I traditionally itemize my overnights away from base for meals and incidentals based on the US State Department and GSA per diem rates. In my last job, I deducted the total amount minus the per diem (allowances) I received. I have no idea how much I have received in cash allowances in 2007. What are other Americans doing?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

- Scratch

Cider30 25th Mar 2008 03:46

I seem to remember that don't volunteer information worked when in the Air Force.

:ok:

viking avenger 25th Mar 2008 06:58

it depends if you are HKG based and a bonefide overseas resident or living in the USA. Claim what you get subtracted from what the you are entitled to from the US state dept site you mentioned. Mine used to work out to about 4000 US$ advantage per year.
next time you fly just write down the allowance money you received on your roster. save those twelve rosters and record keeping is a breeze. ie days away from home etc. Vol 1 also list what allowances you get.

That tax advice is pro bono, you want more info you PM me and we can talk

mayday911 25th Mar 2008 15:29

Never get tax or financial advice from a pilot.

Mayday

apparent wanderer 25th Mar 2008 16:44

I will see your question and raise it one!
What about the fact that the only thing withheld is the federal income tax? What about social security? My tax guy got done with all my stuff, and called the IRS (anonymously). They say that's fine, but it's not their department.
What does this imply for our social security benefits when we retire? That we only get from them what we've paid up to now? I guess that's okay, since I could no doubt do better by investing it myself, but I'd sure hate to get caught down the road and owe a bunch to social security.

BTW, my tax guy went through the issue of per diem. I gave him a few typical payments that we get (roughly 100 bucks for 24h), and he said that the difference between the allowed me&i vs what we get paid is basically negligible. Add the fact that it's all in cash with no real written record and to me it seems an invitation for auditing. But we're both pretty conservative with all that. :hmm:

Sike 27th Mar 2008 06:20

I would guess that Cathay's standard allowance ends up being a bit more than GSA. Therefore, I am choosing to do nothing with it.

thrdkulchr 27th Mar 2008 18:09

In the US overnight per diem is tax free... I thought. Do we even have to declare it?
Also, my people told me that we will no longer be contributing to social security. Fine by me. Less money to the govt. ;)

ScratchF15 27th Mar 2008 21:23

US overnights different from overseas
 
You are correct that Cathay allowances exceed the GSA rates in the states, but using the Department of State figures for overseas layovers (which is legal), there is a tax deduction to be had. For exmple, we get a little under $100US for a 24 hour period in HKG, but the DoS rate in HKG for meals and incidentals is $134 for 2007 (over $140 for 2008).

junior_man 27th Mar 2008 23:58

sounds like a lot of work to get a little bit of money back. And it may make your return more interesting to the people you do not want interested in it....

Sike 28th Mar 2008 02:57

I hadn't thought about the difference between U.S. domestic and international layovers. Good point. However, the difference would have to be pretty large before I would do anything about it. I agree with Junior Man, make your tax return as boring as possible.


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