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dekka007 27th Jan 2009 01:17


If every major airline around this region is experiencing a huge drop off in cargo revenue, but still getting some paying pax, then AHK must be hurting! Mind you fuel is now cheap...isn't it?
There has not been that large drop in EXPRESS cargo loads although a drop has occurred but not as much as general freight. Remember AHK business is not GF its that pricey next day delivery stuff.

Office's are still needing to send Express documents and electronics providers are still sending their Laptops (Apple for example) by express to end-users and distributors/resellers.

AHK I guess is a niche market with DHL business doing very well across Asia even in the current economic turmoil. So much so that rumour has it AHK will be getting bigger airplanes this year and more routes.

There is also the fairly reliable rumour that AHK is more profitable than KA.

AHK is probably one of the most secure jobs in the region (Although the Terms & Conditions are due further tweaking.)...however how long that will last is anyones guess.

geh065 27th Jan 2009 12:10

The 'wet-lease' plans for the Cx 744 freighters that have been referred to in management updates refer to AHK leases.

Flying Mechanic 30th Jan 2009 04:15

get some MD11's while they r cheap!

geh065 31st Jan 2009 03:11

There aren't many of those on the market!

sinkingship 31st Jan 2009 04:12

I heard they were looking for MD's possibly from EVA, 747 too much capacity for their current operation.

Flying Mechanic 31st Jan 2009 10:32

the 4 transmile ones r still parked at KL. Yep Eva could offer there a good deal, Aircraft, training and maintanence. Theres few MD in the desert now, x-Gemini ones.

ehcguedes 8th Feb 2009 01:13

Captain Application
 
Hello Gentlemen,
I would very much appreciate any information concerning the minimum requirements for Captains at AHK, as in the website I´ve seen only 5000 total + 2000 jet + 1000 PIC. Is that PIC meaning on type, or in general.
Anyway thank you for the previous threads.
Respectfully,
Eduardo Guedes.

learfo 5th Feb 2010 04:54

u were once like that too.
 
I'm flying a G-IV. right now with about 3300 hrs. I'm not a captain by no means, but I left a captain job to move my but half way across the world for an empty promise, I was promised 90k/year USD. But I'm making about 85k. I want AHK cause I want stability and a life. We don't fly that much and I don't feel like a pilot anymore. I fly like 2 times a month. Most would think I'm crazy considering a job at AHK. But I think its reasonable. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying that. back then u probably will give your left nut flying for a company like AHK. U should know how you got there in the first place if you're a CRJ driver. U probably was flying for pinch a nickel. U probably whored yourself out for 20/hr US. And now it probably took you 6 years of being a whore to get to where you are now. I agree. There should be housing but please there are lots of people in here that has more integrity then when you first started. So please give the low timers a break. Not to mention you probably was one of those zero to hero guys who never paid their dues. Take it for what its worth. Plus, u don't have a choice unless someone offers you a job. By the way, this was in response to Kenny's post. Keep the faith low timers. and when you become somebody always remember where you come from.

9M_JON 5th Feb 2010 07:41

How long for them to respond?
 
Or even of they do at all from initial submission of application forms?

SiNGH08 5th Feb 2010 09:48

Whom is Kenny? I do not see any kenny posting here any negative about you. This is very confusing lear. If youare so angry how can you hope to pass interview?

I am hoping for ab initio position but appears they are not looking for such pilots now. Any news?

RedBaron246 7th Feb 2010 23:48

AHK, what a joke!

dekka007 8th Feb 2010 02:12


AHK, what a joke!
Why is that then? :rolleyes:

RedBaron246 9th Feb 2010 21:07


Why is that then?
- Hiring Direct Entry Captains even though most FO's are ready for CMD

- Bias RT/PC's

- Junior Captains becoming TC's over Senior Captains

- Direct Entry Captain becoming CTC in 6 months AND without even becoming a TC or STC first

- Former CTC, DCTC and MQSS all resign with in months from one another

- Crew moved out of Headland. So much for 60% CX owned

- CMD assesment for Asians different from the Caucasians

Shall I continue? :D

bumba 11th Feb 2010 08:53

HKG-Employers notes
 
Direct Entry Captains:
Valid ICAO Airline Transport Pilot's Licence (ATPL)
Minimum of 5000 hours fixed wing experience including:
Minimum of 2000 hours jet experience
Minimum of 1000 hours PIC (pilot in command)
Valid multi-engine instrument rating
Current Class 1 medical certificate
Fluency in spoken and written English.

Direct Entry First Officers:
Valid ICAO Airline Transport Pilot's Licence (ATPL)
Minimum of 3000 hours fixed wing experience including:
Minimum of 1000 hours Jet Experience
Valid Multi-Engine Instrument Rating
Current Class 1 Medical Certificate
Fluency in spoken and written English

=================================================
... anybody know if the are looking for DEFO NTR? thanks

classicart 11th Feb 2010 10:33

acronyms
 
what is:

RT/PC
TC
CTC
STC
DCTC
MQSS
DEFO NTR

much obliged

Capt Vertigo 11th Feb 2010 13:43

Hear AHK hire DEFO with less 500hrs too, depends where you from. :rolleyes:

Good luck!

Happy landings

Cpt. Underpants 11th Feb 2010 15:08

RT/PC = Recurrency Training/Proficiency Check
TC = Training Captain
CTC = Check & Training Captain
STC = Senior Training Captain
DEFO NTR = Direct Entry F/O, Non-Type Rated

DCTC = ?
MQSS = ?

classicart 11th Feb 2010 15:26

thx cpt up

airplaneridesrfun 13th Feb 2010 12:24

They just want cheap pilots. Of course they will have you, as long as you are willing to lower the bar for every airline pilot in the world. Think about what you are doing to your profession before considering this job. If you are ok with undercutting every civilized countries pilot pay, then go for it!

bmarley26 25th Feb 2010 07:33

Working in Hong Kong
 
I'm looking to move to Hong Kong soon,
Just finished ATPL's,
I was one of those Pesky REX cadets(Regional Express) and I've accrued 1200 hours total time, with 1000 of that as an F/O multi-crew on a SAAB340
what do you guys think my chances are of being a successful applicant for AHK.
any advice to improve my chances?
Regards BOBBY:ok:

bumba 25th Feb 2010 07:46

package deal
 
airplaneridesrfun

what is the package deal at AHK for a Junior FO?thanks

Skyezalimit 28th Feb 2010 18:59

First Officer Salary
 
Hi everyone,
Any idea what is the 2010 salary for F/O with AHK?
I got an email saying

"You are currently under consideration for selection to attend an
Initial Interview in Hong Kong.

However, to be eligible for selection, you must have first completed
and returned, to the email address below, the attached Application for
Employment - Aircrew form.

Thank you for your interest in AHK.

Rgds,
AHK Air Hong Kong Ltd"

Any information about the job and pilot life there, will appreciated.

Kind Regards

bmarley26 2nd Mar 2010 03:41

Salary for ahk
 
Hey Skyez the limit,
I'm interested also in the sort of package they have
What sort of experience did you have when you applied for ahk?
I'd like to apply in 6 months or so

ROO-C26B 9th Mar 2010 22:39

Received an email to fill in the application and return it with an updated CV. I've since sent in my application and CV that was 2 months ago. Nothing heard. I have TT5000 with 2000 jet over 50 tonnes. What are they looking for scratching my head for this one.

7Q Off 12th Mar 2010 05:32

Are they hiring commanders or just FO?

Any news on the BCF or MD11?

Best wishes,

air36 14th Mar 2010 15:37

FO US$ 7000-8000
CAPT US$10,000-11,000

flying 40-60 hours
roster: 8 days work then 6 days off

gratuity pay starts on the 4th year
FO US$15,000 and CAPT US$20,000

0% tax in Penang base
10-15% tax in Hongkong base
8-10% tax in Singapore base

7Q Off 15th Mar 2010 16:36

still looking for CPT?

air36 16th Mar 2010 03:41

not at the moment

9M_JON 16th Mar 2010 09:09

Replied with regret. Over 4000+hrs TT and looking for FO position and domiciled in SE Asia.

9M_JON 17th Mar 2010 10:29

cessna95,

Thanks, I was applying for the FO position. Thought they will be more keen for pilots with SE Asian passport, maybe I just didn't qualify. Good luck to the rest. Cheers.

hongkongfooey 18th Mar 2010 11:45

Bmarley, unless things have changed one of the requirments is 1000hrs jet

bmarley26 20th Mar 2010 11:37

1000 hours Jet
 
Your correct about Air Hong Kong however for Hong Kong Express I believe its 1000 hours total with turbine experience preferred.

I'll let you know how I go,

wish me luck
Marley

40Deg STH 21st Mar 2010 02:56

bmarly26, are you not bonded at Rex?? How does that work?

And some advice........avoid HKE/HKA. Apart from management issues and standards issues, the pay is far too low to accept. Its lowering the value our skills significantly

Just another student 22nd Mar 2010 15:12

Anymore updates or information regarding AHK anyone?

What is the atmosphere like? Have things changed since the original few posts on this thread?

Are there many ex-pat crews who commute to base following days off? If so, what are typical accommodation arrangements for their 8 days on? I read in an earlier post that they no longer use Headland, where do they place crews now?

Is the roster 8 on / 6 off fixed, or is there flexibility to arrange days off to allow for european commuting?

The company seem on the surface to be in reasonable shape, any plans for expansion?

I have family and friends in HKG, hence my interest.

I have 2000tt with 1800hrs on 737-300/500, does this put me in the right ball park for required experience?

Cheers

JAS

cessna95 17th Apr 2010 04:17

looks like selection has been a bit picky with regarding to TT. guys with jet time are not getting a shot at an interview. or maybe just the 1st interview.......

champ2121 29th Apr 2010 11:00

Has anyone been to the first round of this years scheduled recruitment interviews for the A300? I know there were interviews commencing on 26th April, I've got mine coming up in Aug (as F/O) so I'll let you know what it's like then.

For those that might have been already, what was the assessment process like?

It seems there will be a 2nd round after the initial interview, are they expecting us to pay for travel and accommodation for round 2 aswell?!....not cheap as I'm coming from the UK.

Cheers

MD330 5th May 2010 06:38


- Hiring Direct Entry Captains even though most FO's are ready for CMD
- Bias RT/PC

- Junior Captains becoming TC's over Senior Captains

- Direct Entry Captain becoming CTC in 6 months AND without even becoming a TC or STC first

- Former CTC, DCTC and MQSS all resign with in months from one another

- Crew moved out of Headland. So much for 60% CX owned

- CMD assesment for Asians different from the Caucasians

Shall I continue? :D
RedBaran:

Rumour out there, management is breaking up. :rolleyes: Back stabbing, mud slinging among them. AD and RD at it again as they did in CX.!

CAD and DHL on them with AOC sitting on soft grounds. Smoking & sick note mismanagement issues. Seems the 'young asian bugger' took 'the Hitler' on..:D What a shame. :O May be dragged to court soon.??

Training department in shambles with two chaps in-charge overnite.??

Terminated/sacked pilots from HKA/HKE seem to be taking over AHK. :D

“The Hitler” of AHK may have to step down.!

Happy and safe flight!

Capt Vertigo 5th May 2010 10:51

That's why its called "an outfit" :D

RedBaron246

What happen to the thread you started?? Was it AHK's mismanagement again... :ugh:

Cheers!

KaptenLanun 5th May 2010 15:32


- CMD assesment for Asians different from the Caucasians
Hey MD,
1st time in HK eh?? More to come from The Hitler of this "outfit" as pointed out by Vertigo................. :mad:

Turkpilot 5th May 2010 22:28

AHK
 
I was supposed to interview there last month but got tied up so maybe this month. Still don't know if its for Captain or FO slot as i submitted for Captain but who knows...


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