There is an inconsistency with the AOA’s "black-listing" of new SOs, whilst people are upgrading to FO or CN. With respect to the goal of getting the 49'ners back (FOs & Capts),in my opinion blacklisting new SO’s displays an enormously hypocritical stance to be taking.
Why bother to blacklist new SOs, while we are doing upgrades. :rolleyes:

THANK YOU 50 !
At last some one speaks his mind and makes sense of it all, would not the SOs be even more loyal to AOA if they are helped by them to build a good career as an airline pilot. :cool:

been there, what 50 said was said by a lot of us from day one.

the best reply from aoa members were IFALPA produced the recruitment ban so nothing can be done.

as far as ban or no ban, CX will continue to hire, whether union like it or not. another issue (and you can take it up with IFALPA itself) is the restriction is on members. were you not a member of any union, what control do they have over your lives? well, besides not being in any union when you come online.

we will see all on the next EGM.

cheers

Well, if you ask IFALPA the reason that the ban is only on recruitment you get refered to the AOA and they refer you back to IFALPA so who in the **** knows what is going on!!

Wonder when CX will sack another 49+ malcontents? Much deadwood needs to be cleaned out I suspect...

People, the recruitment ban serves no purpose except to stop any chance of talks.
There are 1500 Ansett pilots in the market
for our jobs.My guess would be around 1000
of these potential recruits are already on
the IFALPA blacklist.Grow up and vote to
dump the ban and get the 49'ers and all of
us back to normality.
How many of the ex-Ansett pilots will stop
for one microsecond to consider joining CX.
Give me a break, the bulk of them are scabs
from 1989. They will be happy to take all
your seniority numbers in an instant,after
all they have experience in defying IFALPA.
Lets not let history repeat,especially with
the same union busting scab pilots AGAIN!!

Phlap1.

While I understand where you are coming from lets get the numbers right. There were only 800 Ansett pilots and only 350 (I think it may have been 300) were on the so called list. The remainder of the 800 were employed after the AFAP lifted the ban, so dont group the whole lot in one basket.

I still raise the question, if IFALPA are so against employment into Cathay to preserve the 50+ jobs why are pilots already in the company accepting upgrades. Surely this defeats the purpose of the ban.

On the Flight Intl' web site.
It sure looks as CX will be making a big profit next yr.So have they started cutting of 13'th month's salary of the staff.

The A340-500/600 programme has suffered a serious of blows in recent months, largely as a result of the 11 September attacks. SIA has recently negotiated a nine-month delay of its A340-500 deliveries to late 2003, while the orders held by Swissair/Flightlease, another 2002 customer for the -600, have been cancelled.

Cathay Pacific, which has three A340-600s on lease order from International Lease Finance due from September, now looks set to become the initial operator of the type. The airline is thought to be unhappy about this, with sources saying that if it wanted to be a launch operator it would have signed up as launch customer.

"Big profits" go to the ah.....shareholders, NOT the staff.
Some never learn :rolleyes:

411A, crawl back into the hole from which you came.....

There was a rumor that one the CX, male flt. attendant committed sucide on hearing the news of the 13th mth pay cuts, this happened in Vancouver,on a lay over..can any one confirm this.. :confused:

Phlap1,
Me thinks you might be right. I travelled on the CX city/PTB bus last night and noticed a very timid and quite ex Ansett Check Captain travelling on the same Bus. I assume he was chasing work in CX. If this individual is successful then look out. He is one of the "blacklisted" and also an extremely unpopular dangerous individual. I hope for the sake of CX he does not get in!!

MJMJKG thanks for the vindication.Not having
made that many posts I must say how much I
love 411A's contributions, or should I say
the incredible reaction he now generates.
It's like a fart in an elevator- everyone
hears it but nobody wants to acknowledge it..

yes the male FA is still hospitalized in YVR, noone knows when he will be released, cos he is mentally unstable, the reason....maybe the cutting of the 13th month bonus cos he is in a real bad debt.

agm, was the guy yvr based?

No he's from HK based and the incident happened nearly 4 weeks ago during his lay over in YVR and as far as I've been told both HKG and YVR cabin crew management have done whatever possible to help him and now it depends on himself whether he wants to recover or not..

I'm quite sure the withdrawal of the 13mth bonus will have such an impact to some of the employee within the company......

Phlap & others,
very serious labelling of ex AN pilots.

The younger generation are the most likely candidates for CX,many have interviews.We have informally asked our union to approach your union about the employment ban.We thought it would be a well received courtesey and for us, an official info source other than Prune.

No luck though,wasn`t in the senior AN pilots interests I suppose.

An exAN checkie just missed out with CX for your info.

Further to my last,two exAN checkies missed out on CX.Including the one mentioned earlier.