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Oneworld Cockpit Crew Coalition Condemns Treatment of Cathay Pacific Pilots

Old 9th Dec 2021, 02:49
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Toxic climate’: Hong Kong pilots buckle under ‘zero COVID’ rules

‘Toxic climate’: Hong Kong pilots buckle under ‘zero COVID’ rules (aljazeera.com)
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Originally Posted by Silent Treatment
Your buddy is the one who assumed I'm volunteering for CL. I am not. Yet neither of you can answer my question. What have you done today to ground the fleet?
I took a volun-told redundancy and left. Thanks for asking.
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thanks for the article @Longtimer. 👍🙂

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Originally Posted by Will IB Fayed
I took a volun-told redundancy and left. Thanks for asking.
I hope you've been able to move on and find something better in your life. Unlike some of your former based colleagues who, not only have returned and signed PoS18, but are also doing multiple loops and have signed up for TC roles.
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a good example of how CX obey the CCP and why the entire CX operation needs to relocate away from HK! I believe that there is a CCP member on the CX board.



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woohoo, fresh off the press 👍🙂👇



Cathay Pacific’s Hong Kong pilots weigh Los Angeles move as airline looks to ease burden of coronavirus quarantine rules

Embattled flag carrier asks for volunteers for four-month stints in California as it struggles to stem flight cancellations, pilot resignations.

The airline last month began sounding out demoralised aircrew about the possibility of being based out of Dubai or the United States.

read article...
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re the above article ☝, the grapevine is telling me that this is too little too late and every CX pilot is now actively looking for work elsewhere!!

the general consensus is that the covid restrictions aren't about public health anymore, it's all political and all about control from the CCP!!

get serious and move the entire operation out of HK!!
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Originally Posted by china123
re the above article ☝, the grapevine is telling me that this is too little too late and every CX pilot is now actively looking for work elsewhere!!

the general consensus is that the covid restrictions aren't about public health anymore, it's all political and all about control from the CCP!!

get serious and move the entire operation out of HK!!
Only problem with that is that CX is a Hong Kong based airline. Might have a problem with the principle place of business argument that has been used against previous competitors.
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Only lawful US citizens and residents need apply, and if ever there was a perfect opportunity to interview and start training with a US operator, whilst employed by CXit, this is it!
Spank you very much

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Originally Posted by Silent Treatment
I hope you've been able to move on and find something better in your life. Unlike some of your former based colleagues who, not only have returned and signed PoS18, but are also doing multiple loops and have signed up for TC roles.
Found a flying job in my home country. Pays half as much, but I'm twice as happy!
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Originally Posted by KABOY
Only problem with that is that CX is a Hong Kong based airline. Might have a problem with the principle place of business argument that has been used against previous competitors.
this should be an easy argument to win given that nearly two thirds of Cathay's voting rights reside in London with the Swire Group.



HK has changed for good and CX must move accordingly!
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And in this case "accordingly" is probably "elsewhere........"!
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And in this case "accordingly" is probably "elsewhere........"!
correct Busbuoy amongst other things, but the priority right now is to sack the CEO.

Incompetent doesn't even begin to cover the scale of his failures. Failures pilots and their families are now all paying the price for!!!

He will go down in history for being DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the greatest Cathay Pacific disaster in Hong Kong aviation history!!!

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China, unfortunately I don’t think he is the guy running/ ruining the show. GH is the man making the decisions….
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China, unfortunately I don’t think he is the guy running/ ruining the show. GH is the man making the decisions….
CCP cadres up north are pulling the strings. The rest are all just puppets.
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Warren Buffet said Several times earlier in his career he had warned against investing in airlines. “The worst sort of business is one that grows rapidly, requires significant capital to engender the growth, and then earns little or no money,” Buffett said. “Think airlines.”
So why does Swire continue to support this ultimately doomed airline?
First loss is the best loss. Close it down and put everyone out of their misery.
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Warren Buffet said Several times earlier in his career he had warned against investing in airlines. “The worst sort of business is one that grows rapidly, requires significant capital to engender the growth, and then earns little or no money,” Buffett said. “Think airlines.”
So why does Swire continue to support this ultimately doomed airline?
First loss is the best loss. Close it down and put everyone out of their misery.
Hypocrisy from the old goat. WB was the second largest shareholder in the USA majors, behind one hedge fund. They both had huge positions in all 4. He sold (badly) after the Covid stock collapse.

Despite his decades-long investment in airlines, he has had billions and billions in long positions for a long time.
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decline of CX share price accompanies by lack of diviidends

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Hypocrisy from the old goat. WB was the second largest shareholder in the USA majors, behind one hedge fund. They both had huge positions in all 4. He sold (badly) after the Covid stock collapse.

Despite his decades-long investment in airlines, he has had billions and billions in long positions for a long time.
Decline in CX share price and lack of dividends long time tells it all. Parasite airline milking the shareholders.
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Originally Posted by Bueno Hombre
Decline in CX share price and lack of dividends long time tells it all. Parasitic airline milking the shareholders.
CX maybe - I was referring to your reference to Buffet, who has got his airline investment strategy completely wrong. He lost tens of billions in his fire sale, and while he was preaching not to invest in airlines, was building the second largest airline ownership position in the USA.
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this is how CX pilots are feeling right now...


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