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Old 8th Sep 2021, 04:20
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I'm starting to believe it's just a rumor and not one single crew is in PB.
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 04:53
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And were you expecting something? DFO and GMA, great communicators working hard to keep us happy. Union? is there one?
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 06:22
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Confirmed case of CC who returned on cargo-only CX841 from NY. Not surprised at all considering the many stories of on9 CC sneaking out of the hotels. Thanks for it up for all of us!
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 06:32
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You don't think the freighter guys are going out in Dubai or USA?
It's the only way they stay sane.

Also, you're assuming that passengers leaving Hk are all negative, and I can tell you from personal experience, they are not. Crew are getting emails even up to 3 weeks after a flight saying that a passenger on their outbound flight is positive.
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 06:37
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Confirmed at Fleet Forum yesterday. 8 pilots & 16 cabin crew at PB.
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 12:18
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The stories are true, they all leave the hotel and don't care about the consequences now. Pretty much all ports except for AUS/NZ...
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 12:58
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Any disciplinary action to follow?
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 13:24
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To be fair, that hotel in NYC is a proper dump, no wonder people want to escape!
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 00:20
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Disciplinary action? Doubt it, it's the Cabin Crew that normally report for the small things trying to climb that slippery pole that are going out and about. Company could just go check the CCTV if they really wanted to. I think it's just more of a blind eye thing.
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 01:17
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There are privacy laws in the United States. The hotel won't just turn over CCTV recordings without a warrant. It's not like HKG with CHP prowling about, checking videos, and arresting people for poking their head out of a hotel room door. Or like Aus where you've got cops or military guarding the halls. I'm sure they could try and get hotels to snitch.....and it wouldn't surprise me if they did.
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 01:41
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Who says that the unfortunate CC broke any rules anyway? There are numerous examples of transmission within hotels whether used for quarantine or regular ones. Incidental transmission when opening doors or more insidiously through ventilation and air conditioning systems etc

Maybe they did go out (would that be the crime of the century?) and maybe they didnít
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 03:21
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Has the AOA legally challenged the order to send crew to PB . There is a definition of close , casual contact. Did the CHP follow those definitions, I am in doubt
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 08:36
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Lol the AOA
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 09:36
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Old 11th Sep 2021, 10:47
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We are as bad as the CHP and the lunatics running the show if we sit here asking for this guy to be fired for catching COVID.

The way this is going we are all eventually going to catch a cough and be at the mercy of PB and CHP.

give this guy a break. Could have just as easily picked it up in the hotel itself.

you go to work at your peril these days
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Old 11th Sep 2021, 11:08
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This.

Not sure if others have realised, but in the real world, where we fly to, life is going back to normal - and as a result, this psychotic sanitising of every surface of hotels every 2 minutes has also stopped. Masks have been ditched etc.

So, folks catch Covid - but who cares. Those who wanted it are vaccinated, and we move on. Sadly that’s not possible here in HK with the clown show calling the shots completely unchecked.
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Old 11th Oct 2021, 11:06
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History Repeating itself

According to the email today, more unfortunate crew have been detained and sent to PB.

Rumours were rife yesterday with talk of crew being held in the airport for over 24 hours without proper food/ bedding/ showers and then being sent to gulag. Pilots being sent to PB and cabin crew sent to hotels?

Does anyone have any more details about what happened? (Remember when the union would start emails with “This is rumour control, here are the facts.”)

Anyway…

We are at the point where testing positive is akin to committing a crime and even close proximity carries a mandatory prison sentence.

Without the obvious suggestion of leaving the circus, does anyone have any thoughts on how to
protect ourselves, our families and neighbours from being incarcerated?

I’ve heard testing at an outport before returning to HK is one mitigation strategy being used. Better to test positive overseas and be treated like a human than be treated like an animal in HK.
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Old 11th Oct 2021, 11:59
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Spot on with the crime comparison. This is an utter disgrace unfolding in front of us.

What possible reason was there to hold crew at the airport that long, if that is what happened? Surely even the test result is near-irrelevant if their fate has already been decided.
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Old 11th Oct 2021, 12:18
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Cabin crew doing Q overseas. Pilots got pinged so held for over 21 hrs in the MCC on click click beds, full lighting and no facilities (no staff available allegedly due T8 ! ) and then, just to
round it off, 21 days in the cooler.
A dystopian effing nightmare. Meanwhile the rest of the vaccinated world gets on with living with it.
This is what happens when you have no credible opposition, no pushback and the company so beholden and indebted to the government that they just do as they’re told.
Frankly it should be pointed out to the CHP that this is untenable, and they should resoundingly be told to
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Old 11th Oct 2021, 13:48
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Bloody Nora. Do you know what were the circumstances that caused the CC being able to QT in Aus, as opposed to the pilots getting nailed back in HK?

An absolute dystopia, indeed. There are a lot of complete cretins that have a lot to answer for, which as you point out, will not happen.
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