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Old 17th Jun 2021, 12:01
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The based pilots aren't feeling 'incredibly important' right now, I can assure you.
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Old 17th Jun 2021, 12:28
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Of course not sorry I didn't mean it that way. Just amazed at their mendacity.
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Old 17th Jun 2021, 16:14
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HKG will renew expat pilots visas

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...gtype=homepage
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Old 17th Jun 2021, 21:50
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So for some it’s 3 years, others 6 months and cabin crew none.
Smells like pure discrimination in the workplace to me - WILL be sending an urgent email to the Equal Opportunities Commission.
All of this is more ammo for the inevitable court case against the Director of Immigration, who is now in bed with CXit.
The ICAC might also be interested to investigate whatever under the table deal took place.
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Old 17th Jun 2021, 23:46
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Uhm, job function is not a protected category, or you could complain that cabin crew are paid less than pilots.
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Old 18th Jun 2021, 03:39
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Old 18th Jun 2021, 03:49
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Curry, it has nothing to do with discrimination, it is all about how “readily”,to use ImmD terminology, the visa holder can be replaced by a local. Cabin crew can easily be replaced so that’s simple.
They've obviously used the arguement about type rating and training qualifications to give longer for those who have type ratings not held by many of the currently unemployed pilots. You’ll note that 330 and 320 rated pilots have only been given a stay of execution of six months as ImmD would appear to expect that unemployed locals from KA and HKA are employed over the next six months to fill those slots.
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Old 18th Jun 2021, 10:02
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I feel you on the discrimination issue. But I’m afraid mr Director of Immigration has been royally over by the CXit “managers”.

Many of the ex Dragon colleagues, ex CXit colleagues flew freighters at some point in their flying careers, including 74’s. It certainly doesn’t take 3 years to do a conversion course, or a TRI/TRE upgrade for that matter, so 6 months extension should have been more than adequate.

The immigration department’s GEP rules are plain and simple, many readily available (read qualified, experienced) unemployed local pilot licence holders to do conversion courses if needed.

I insist that by twisting the above rule, the Commissioner whored himself out to favouritism if not corruption, and a judicial review will be needed to address this. A judge will decide and set a precedent for future cases, not necessarily all aviation related.

To be continued …
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Old 18th Jun 2021, 12:24
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Curry's on a mission, she's had her latte coffee & sold her 1 bitcoin! To the court house!
Albeit noble and logical, common sense will not prevail in these matters when the government and CX are the defendants.
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Old 18th Jun 2021, 21:38
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I agree with your sentiment, but a judicial review will never happen. Hong Kong no longer has the rule of law, it is the rule of Peking.
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 17:00
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Don't forget about the influencer online who recently posted a statistic show-down of her numerous flights and destinations of the month while plenty of our lads struggle to hope to fly.
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Old 30th Jun 2021, 10:44
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I suppose with the shortage of pilots in the US these days, having a flying licence could be seen as “Highly Skilled”, so worth a shot for all ex KA brethren and HK SAR passport holders:

Revived US bill proposes special status for Hongkongers threatened by national security law
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/arti...tened-national

Entire article is too long, but this is a quote, defining the main point:

“The current bill is meant to provide multiple pathways for Hongkongers to apply for entry into the US. To that end, the co-sponsors added an additional one for “highly skilled” applicants, defined as those with graduate or undergraduate diplomas from accredited US schools or owners of companies with more than 50 employees or US$50 million in assets.”
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Old 9th Jan 2022, 14:45
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Question

What are the status on the visa extension for 320/330 crew, imm department extended 6 months from June 2021, are those visa’s expiring now or renewed ?
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Old 9th Jan 2022, 19:25
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It should be coming up in the next few weeks. I thought they were extended End of June/Start of July so expecting Feb to be the decider.
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Old 10th Jan 2022, 04:38
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No more extensions, and the 12 months and 3 years given to cargo crew non PR will also be reduced, as appropriate punishment - watch this space.



“Sources also said mainland China officials were piling pressure on Chief Executive Carrie Lam Cheng Yuet-ngor’s government to punish Cathay Pacific, the city’s flagship carrier, especially after Beijing health experts had earlier identified aircrew as a potential risk area in their trip to the city.”
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Old 10th Jan 2022, 05:56
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Turns out a few of the SO's and UO crew I know have been given their renewal paperwork to be submitted to the Immigration Tower already. Should find out the situation soon. Most are expecting to go with MPF to help them survive.

What's the go with GBA? All is quiet yet they took a fair few crew...
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Old 10th Jan 2022, 07:55
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Rumour is that cathay has struck a deal with the immigration department where each ex dragon pilot they rehire will allow for 3 expat visa renewals.
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Old 10th Jan 2022, 10:07
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Rumour is that cathay has struck a deal with the immigration department where each ex dragon pilot they rehire will allow for 3 expat visa renewals.
Very UNLIKELY. The Immd has specific rules&regulations, any ‘special - under - the - table’ deal will not fly in a courtroom, which the ex Dragon guys may very well bring to light, should there happen to be any such non PR renewals.

The extension was only granted for a specific time period, which is now fast coming to an end for the 320/330 non PRs.

It’s also not applicable any longer to the rest, with only 2% of pax flights going, and most cargo flights cancelled. Plenty of foreign cargo companies keeping hongkongers fed.

CXi (not exactly the most popular company in HK right now) doesn’t need anywhere near the current crew numbers, and certainly can’t justify this to the party animal director of immigration.

GBA is waiting for CXit to finally close shop, before making their entrance, that day seems to be very near, unfortunately.



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Old 14th Feb 2022, 11:02
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Did anyone try renewing their work visa lately, the 6 months extension to 320/330 pilots should be up these days.
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Old 14th Feb 2022, 11:12
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Originally Posted by ecam5 View Post
Did anyone try renewing their work visa lately, the 6 months extension to 320/330 pilots should be up these days.
Everyone I know in HKE has had their visa extended but still only for another 6 months.
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