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When will this chaos end?

Old 21st Jan 2021, 05:40
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Also saw that some countries are allowing travel without quarantine if you can show you have been vaccinated. Realize it's a long road ahead but it's a start.
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Old 21st Jan 2021, 09:06
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What country's would that be ?
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Old 21st Jan 2021, 09:09
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Romania just became the first country to allow no quarantine access to tourists who have had the 2nd shot and at least 10 days have passed
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Old 21st Jan 2021, 12:46
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Seychelles is next apparently.
this is the way forward.
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Old 21st Jan 2021, 13:17
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LLLQNH

Any links to that story ? I cannot find the data . It would be nice as I will be able to leave the bunker in ten days and visit friends and relatives without fear of hurting them .
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Old 21st Jan 2021, 13:41
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this one maybe?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...thers-israeli/
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 03:20
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Thanks for the link,
More good news , help is on the way
I might just clean the bunker , in case friends bring beer over .
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Old 25th Jan 2021, 03:32
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When will it end..

The great saviour of the USA speak s

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/24/p...ump/index.html

The travel fat lady has not yet sung
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Old 2nd Feb 2021, 07:11
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Sadly, Canada's Liberal Government under Justin Trudeau's lack of leadership has failed the citizens of Canada due to a flawed pandering deal with China (that ultimately fell through) but cost the Canadian citizens 6 months of lost time of not ordering approved vaccines, now we have run out of vaccines at a critical time! (with less than 900 thousand citizens vaccinated) This is criminal on many levels and Justin Trudeau must be held accountable for this EPIC FAILURE!

Last edited by mccauleyprop; 2nd Feb 2021 at 07:15. Reason: replaced failed by flawed but really, either will do in this case!
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 02:54
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777X looking more marginalised by the day. Media reporting delays on delivery till 2024 and cancellations of orders.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 07:28
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"Sadly, Canada's Liberal Government under Justin Trudeau's lack of leadership has failed the citizens of Canada "

I read that Canada had ordered more vaccines per head of population than any other country in the world - over 500 million doses
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Old 5th Feb 2021, 22:57
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Boeing's focus on share price and union busting has come back to bite them. Google for an analysis of why they have gone so wrong. Many parallels can be seen with the clowns at senior levels of CX mis-management.
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Old 5th Feb 2021, 23:03
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Looks like the solution is finally brewing.

​​​​​​https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-55718553
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Old 5th Feb 2021, 23:34
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Excerpt from that BBC article:
”Demanding staff be vaccinated would be unlawful in the majority of circumstances. Exceptions could be if it was ‘job critical’ for people to be vaccinated - such as care home workers, or roles requiring overseas travel”

I’m not an anti-vaxxer but sounds like having a choice will go out the window
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Old 6th Feb 2021, 02:30
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Vaccinated crew members have not been recognized by any country to be of no risk.
Different countries wont allow vaccinated crew unrestricted access to their countries.
Countries lose their minds over 1 covid case, I doubt any will be willing to let "vaccinated" crew go unrestricted in any country.
Is it all just a waste of time?
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Old 6th Feb 2021, 08:44
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All the politicians are extremely careful to be seen as protecting the population, trying to save their behinds after many, many mistakes made.
Eventually they will have to give quarantine access to travelers to their country if they have been vaccinated. It will be a question of time.

The vaccination rates will go up to the point that no-one is dying anymore, at which point this will all become old news, as long as there are not new variants that manage to infect the vaccinated again.
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Old 6th Feb 2021, 15:08
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Vaccine does not stop covid.

Even with the jab the virus still survives at the back of throat.

Cough,sneeze and spit can transmit virus
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Old 6th Feb 2021, 16:54
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So what? It will reduce the pressure on hospitals, isn't that the whole point? People get sick, it's a fact of life, the huge issue here is hospital capacity, it's not eliminating catching covid if you are a healthy 0-65 year old. Or did I miss something? I agree some countries have totally lost the plot and are locking down for a single case, once the rest of the world starts opening up leaving those overreacting economies behind, things will change. When Australians see Europe enjoying free travel, not many falling seriously ill, hospitals no where near capacity etc etc. Public opinion will swing, politicians want votes, and they will open up their country, even though you are right covid will still be there, even with a high vaccine take up. Who cares though, I couldn't give a if I caught it, for me it is no more serious than the flu as I am healthy, not over 65.
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Old 12th Feb 2021, 08:59
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Sloppy, I am 74, now . A little disadvantaged with bronchial stuff but careful rather than fearful. I'm on team with you fella. Triffik posts.
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