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Round 2 layoffs in February or March

Old 15th Jan 2021, 04:35
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BTW voch it is career not carrier. The Tristar says it all.
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Old 15th Jan 2021, 04:45
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veryoldchinahand

just because you sit in an office doesn't make u better than others..... CX managers live in the 70s and the 80s thinking that all pilots come from GA or air force and don't have other experiences or qualifications other than flying planes, the truth is many new generation pilots come from a highly educated background and prior career, some no less than those "management trainee"....

If you think you were so good and smart, will you really be at swire or CX?? pretty sure top/smart graduates from top universities wouldn't choose swire or CX as their dream company when they can be making a much bigger difference (and pay) at places like Mckinsey or ibanks
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Old 15th Jan 2021, 20:51
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Ya, Pointless

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Of course with lockdowns around the world increasing, UK just banned flights from South America and Covid 20, 21, 22 .......... popping up on every continent - layoffs will diminish right 😮
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 07:47
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Exactly my point old chap. But February or March is too early to tell anything. It's pretty obvious that we won't know how the recovery is progressing until we have data on it, which won't be until the second half of 2021. Anything sooner would make blatant their deception.
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Old 20th Jan 2021, 10:48
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Maybe this is the reason the Feb roster is delayed so much?
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Old 20th Jan 2021, 12:10
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Rusty, it's only the 20th. Every month has been delayed for a while
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Old 21st Jan 2021, 02:35
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Rumour is that HK government are trying to impose a 12 day hotel quarantine on HK based flight crew, hence roster delay to end of the month
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Old 21st Jan 2021, 09:45
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not just rumor

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...-sector-braces
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Old 21st Jan 2021, 22:21
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If they impose a 12 days hotel quarantine for HKG based crew(effectively treating HKG Based as based crew), then they should relax the layover requirement for HKG based crew as well. Otherwise, what is the point. Even Australia allows OZ based crew to be quarantined at home.
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 03:48
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I understand that the 12 day proposal is not now going ahead. Source is reasonably reliable but not 100% solid.
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 04:03
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Qantas now have to quarantine their crew in Darwin for their repatriation flights. Crew can volunteer for the repatriation flights and are given a 56 day roster, up to 28 days away from Aus, 14 days Quarantine in Darwin, then rest of the 56 days off at home base. I have seen the EOI emails they received.
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Old 13th Feb 2021, 12:56
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Stay? Leave? They’re gonna have to start making up their minds!

New rules ‘won’t affect people’s right to leave HK’
https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...4-20210213.htm

What The Proposed Immigration Law For Hong Kong Is, And Why It's Worrying - NDTV

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/what...akamai-rum=off

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Old 13th Feb 2021, 13:28
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Curry Lamb

Haven't heard of this as a local. Looks like the CCP censorship program for Hong Kong, if there is one, is in full swing. This is really suspicious as many HK locals are planning to emigrate to other countries.

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Old 14th Feb 2021, 07:45
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Layoffs ??
Recruitment drive you mean...

Since last October i jumped up 50 spots on the seniority list. And that’s from around 1350 to 1300.
literaly everybody i know plans on leaving as soon as they can, and jobs will become available in the next 6 months, as there are some now.

The golden handcuffs that we used to wear have been kindly removed by the company with the introduction of cos18. All those jobs back home that we used to laugh about suddenly have become really attractive (low cost, regional, corporate)

Those jets in the OZ desert will stay there for a long time because there will be no one left to fly them.
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Old 14th Feb 2021, 08:42
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Hope dies last.
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Old 14th Feb 2021, 12:34
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Nope, weed does and that’s why you’re still here.
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Old 14th Feb 2021, 12:44
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Old 14th Feb 2021, 15:15
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Balloon buster

I’ve been around a fair while. Actually, it’s fair to say, ‘too long’…….

During my time here I’ve flown with colleagues from almost all over the World, and every background; some ex-military, some not; some very highly experienced, some just starting their journey and finding it hard to wade through the Cathay molasses. Through it all though, I’ve seen no common thread. Some are good at it, some not so good, some are bloody awful, and background has very little to do with it. I’d almost say I’ve seen it all. Almost all, but with one glaring exception!! I can’t help wondering why It’s remained the case for so long, that I’d be more likely to fly with somebody from Timbuktu than somebody from Tianjin? Wouldn’t bother me.

I do see a recruitment drive coming. And about time too! After all, given the utopia that Cathay has at long last achieved, it’d be a terrible shame to see the company’s hard won reputation for fair play besmirched by a blatant prejudice against China’s finest Air Force Pilots and the most ablest son’s and daughters of Party Members, (or at least the very few of them that haven’t graduated from top flight business schools), just because they’re Chinese, wouldn’t it? Doesn’t make any sense that China’s finest low cost carrier should continue to discriminate against Chinese talent!! Wouldn’t you agree?

Indeed, I can foresee both a recruitment drive, and layoffs. 😉
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Old 14th Feb 2021, 15:27
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I should add... the vast majority are very good!
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Old 14th Feb 2021, 19:41
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China can’t even get enough pilots to fly it’s own planes. What makes you think they have any to fly for cx?
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