Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Fragrant Harbour
Reload this Page >

COS18 Poll: Sign or be Terminated

Wikiposts
Search
Fragrant Harbour A forum for the large number of pilots (expats and locals) based with the various airlines in Hong Kong. Air Traffic Controllers are also warmly welcomed into the forum.

COS18 Poll: Sign or be Terminated

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 30th Oct 2020, 02:22
  #41 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 433
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
1200 landings vs 100, for starters.
OK4Wire is offline  
Old 30th Oct 2020, 03:36
  #42 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: one country, one system
Age: 55
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Dilbert68
Exactly what he said. Most of us realize that there is no future here, when the world reopens, the exodus will begin. I would not be surprised if CX is woefully short of pilots in two years time. I guess that is a gamble they are willing to take.
They will roster us at 35ish hrs for the next few years, and arrange crewing levels accordingly. Like that they have full flexibility at very little cost.

Last edited by Sam Ting Wong; 30th Oct 2020 at 05:20.
Sam Ting Wong is offline  
Old 30th Oct 2020, 08:12
  #43 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Shh..
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
For those interested, there is a #FlyWithDignity facebook and instagram page started by the FAU.
Also as they mentioned, i quote, - The mgmt's 1 year paycut is as follow: CEO 30%, directors 20%, managers 15%.
carolknows is offline  
Old 30th Oct 2020, 10:35
  #44 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Cyprus
Posts: 518
Received 19 Likes on 13 Posts
At the start of all this, one chap defended his actions with a statement that he was well aware of the "kack sandwich" that was coming his way. Unlike anywhere else in the industry, CX fellas have been sitting around, doing nothing, on FULL pay. Stacks of time to take a step back and while Rome burns, view carefully what is going on. No brainer, actually. Now the kack sandwich has been delivered, of course everyone will bite. It is the only sensible decision given all the elements in a highly combustable environment. Making the only "sensible" decision appears to have occurred to some 98% almost a no brainer again. Not a nice tasting sarnie but it buys time. First thing we were all taught in the unplanned emergency case wasn't it ? Buy time. 98% have come to the same conclusion.
Gordomac is offline  
Old 30th Oct 2020, 12:06
  #45 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Lonely planet
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
[QUOTE=SloppyJoe;10913244]
Gotta love expats who think their superiority over the locals is the only thing stopping those idiot Asian airline people from killing themselves. [/QUOTE]

Did you even read what I wrote? It will be the lack of crew, the standard of those joining with no other options, such as the French guy who applied but ended up killing lots at Air Asia (an expat). The forced rapid progression.

I guess you didn't and are just an angry racist looking for an issue.
The French expat you talking about was a Pay to Fly pilot, who didn't have a clue how to recover a stalled aircraft - PPL stuff mate. He was the PF, the skipper was the one pulling circuit breakers.

Oddball77 is offline  
Old 30th Oct 2020, 14:37
  #46 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Polar Route
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Oddball77
How is it any different?
That you have to ask tells us just how little you actually know. Hence the point!
cxorcist is offline  
Old 30th Oct 2020, 16:00
  #47 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Great White North of the 49th
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Everyone needs to look at these worthless concessions for those cretins. They are an insult!
Drc40 is offline  
Old 30th Oct 2020, 16:32
  #48 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 1998
Posts: 185
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Let's put a few things in their proper light:

1) Managements pay cuts, only one year, then back to their former level
2) Management will reap larger bonuses due their cost cutting on all budgets
3) Trainers and Checkers have apparently been given a higher housing allowance, and in some cases a "secret" salary deal (not verified but there is evidence)
4) Senior levels of the company will see their compensation increase over this period, while all the regular staff (pilots/FA's/others) will see a catastrophic decrease in theirs
5) Management retain their gold-plated medical benefits for themselves and their families. Our families are thrown to the wolves if you have a serious illness
mngmt mole is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2020, 00:40
  #49 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: CLK
Posts: 380
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
and that surprises you?
Farman Biplane is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2020, 00:58
  #50 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: No where
Posts: 898
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If course it doesn’t surprise me. I made plans accordingly these last 12 months. I just weep for the company and many close friends who have been devastated.
Air Profit is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2020, 01:50
  #51 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 1998
Posts: 185
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Not at all. I made my plans months ago. I just feel very sad for many of my peer group and their families.
mngmt mole is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.