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What a bloody sham that is. Good grief. The ChiComms are vermin and will destroy everything “free market”. China is nobody’s friend, just eh enemy firmly planted in a hell hole.
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Nowadays, a lot of news fed to us was what they wanted us to hear/read.
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If no one reads anything I've ever written I might hope they would read this. You can trust NOTHING -- repeat ABSOLUTELY NOTHING -- you read, see, or hear unless the source is well known to you personally and is credible (I realize the irony of this as someone typing on a semi-anonymous Internet forum).
The ONE thing that has expanded exponentially is the volume and sheer amount of absolute informational propaganda just about everywhere (from EVERY source). There MAY be a fact or half-truth in there somewhere, but we've been subjected to nothing but a bombardment of parrots hearing something and squawking at each other over the last couple of decades. Nothing even remotely related to facts or truth. This shapes perception amongst the unwary and can cause real harm.
It's almost like that old game of "telephone" but the words and phrases are moving in both directions.
I'm getting kinda older and have been around the block a few times. But I've never seen anything like this in what passes for news and media these days.
What do I use as a barometer ? Coercion. If something has to be coercive in nature, chances are it's the wrong path and the argument is incapable of standing on its own merit or real facts. Lockdowns, mandates, etc. all fall into this category.
The ONE thing that has expanded exponentially is the volume and sheer amount of absolute informational propaganda just about everywhere (from EVERY source). There MAY be a fact or half-truth in there somewhere, but we've been subjected to nothing but a bombardment of parrots hearing something and squawking at each other over the last couple of decades. Nothing even remotely related to facts or truth. This shapes perception amongst the unwary and can cause real harm.
It's almost like that old game of "telephone" but the words and phrases are moving in both directions.
I'm getting kinda older and have been around the block a few times. But I've never seen anything like this in what passes for news and media these days.
What do I use as a barometer ? Coercion. If something has to be coercive in nature, chances are it's the wrong path and the argument is incapable of standing on its own merit or real facts. Lockdowns, mandates, etc. all fall into this category.
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Sure. Watch the liberal media on any given day. They mysteriously all begin using same new 'catchphrase' of the day. Or they all decide to not give any air time to the new bombshell report about Joe and Hunter Biden and their epic corruption scandal with Burisma. I could go on, but there are a certain percentage of people who refuse to accept fact. On Nov 3rd however there will be no getting away from that fact. Counting the days. Oh, and btw...regarding our issue: it will be Monday.
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You can add to the previous the Russian Collusion scam, The Flynn persecution scam, The man-made CO2 global warming myth (and it's close brother the so-called 'green energy' scam--there IS no form of energy which doesn't have externalities nor is there a zero emission anything), the chlorinated flourocarbons-ozone scam (which was decades ago; when it was debunked and found these had no effect they were changed to 'greenhouse gases' in a perverse face-saving move), the lockdown myth (which interestingly enough has prompted a CDC reversal -- in a no shiite sherlock moment -- in that it causes more harm than good and has little effect on spread), and the mask myth.
If you want to get into economics you can also delve into the minimum wage myth (if a minimum wage ever has any effect, which it often doesn't because prevailing labour rates are usually above it in most labour markets, it's always destructive. First year economics student stuff).
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All the above topics have been extensively discussed by global media, often highly controversely. In some cases for years.
I am not an expert in US media, but the fact that I can't listen to the likes of Hannity or Tucker without deep revulsion tells me both sides of the political spectrum are well represented.
Unfortunately we all suffer from confirmation bias, we want to read or watch what we believe in already.
I am not an expert in US media, but the fact that I can't listen to the likes of Hannity or Tucker without deep revulsion tells me both sides of the political spectrum are well represented.
Unfortunately we all suffer from confirmation bias, we want to read or watch what we believe in already.
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Unfortunately we all suffer from confirmation bias, we want to read or watch what we believe in already.
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STW. The fact that you denigrate Tucker Carlson is a very revealing insight to your mindset. As he is the most clear thinking and insightful commentator on television is something that his record viewership numbers speak to. Your opinion is of course welcome.
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I guess instead of ‘parroted’ I might have said ‘engaged in a systemic pattern of agenda based groupthink propagandizing’.
But parrot sounds better and those big words are a bit too high class for the likes of me anyway.
But parrot sounds better and those big words are a bit too high class for the likes of me anyway.
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Mngmt Mole, I did not denigrate Tucker. I said I personally can't listen to him.
You guys prove my point. The very fact that we discuss which anchormen or media outlet is right or wrong shows the diversity and open debate culture. There is no such thing as the media. We have state, left and right wing media, millions of bloggers and self-declared journalists, chat groups, youtube channels etc.Then you have twitter and presential debates, no filter at all. Thousands of press briefings, interviews etc. At no point in the history of mankind have so many people engaged in political debates. There is no dominance of "liberal" media. Tucker has high viewing numbers, you said it yourself. So does Breitbart. Facebook is just an advertising company, you get get to see the ads that match with your profile and whoever pays for you to see them. As far as I recall it was Trump who most successfully used FB during the last election with the help of Cambride Analytika. It is beyond me why anybody would use FB as news source, and again shows the vital and essential role proper news media have.
Slasher, your claim everybody is parotting or part of a system is baseless. Just because politics don't follow your opinion the public isn't necessarily manipulated. The idea there is a shadow power in control of everything and only you see it is text book conspiracy theory. You clearly have extreme right wing opinions, and that is ok, but the controversial discussion we are having right now shows we are not all parotting, or we would not disagree. All you said, from minimum wage to global warming I disagree with. I would go as far as to say we live in different worlds. But it is in places without a debate, without an ugly fight about the truth where one should be much more concerned.
The division proves the freedom and diversity of our society, but is a problem as well, I won't deny that. It shows in here and in politics. But what is the alternative? I take a divided and polarized society over China or Russia any day.There you have people really parotting the state media. That's the difference.
You guys prove my point. The very fact that we discuss which anchormen or media outlet is right or wrong shows the diversity and open debate culture. There is no such thing as the media. We have state, left and right wing media, millions of bloggers and self-declared journalists, chat groups, youtube channels etc.Then you have twitter and presential debates, no filter at all. Thousands of press briefings, interviews etc. At no point in the history of mankind have so many people engaged in political debates. There is no dominance of "liberal" media. Tucker has high viewing numbers, you said it yourself. So does Breitbart. Facebook is just an advertising company, you get get to see the ads that match with your profile and whoever pays for you to see them. As far as I recall it was Trump who most successfully used FB during the last election with the help of Cambride Analytika. It is beyond me why anybody would use FB as news source, and again shows the vital and essential role proper news media have.
Slasher, your claim everybody is parotting or part of a system is baseless. Just because politics don't follow your opinion the public isn't necessarily manipulated. The idea there is a shadow power in control of everything and only you see it is text book conspiracy theory. You clearly have extreme right wing opinions, and that is ok, but the controversial discussion we are having right now shows we are not all parotting, or we would not disagree. All you said, from minimum wage to global warming I disagree with. I would go as far as to say we live in different worlds. But it is in places without a debate, without an ugly fight about the truth where one should be much more concerned.
The division proves the freedom and diversity of our society, but is a problem as well, I won't deny that. It shows in here and in politics. But what is the alternative? I take a divided and polarized society over China or Russia any day.There you have people really parotting the state media. That's the difference.
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All this talk about parroting is interesting. I’ll just drop this here without comment except to suggest it’s a worthy watch and do so with an open mind. It’s on Netflix
The Social Dilemma
The Social Dilemma