HOLD ON TO YOUR UNDERPANTS !!
........Phiisophical claptrap removed.....
The central tenets of my post apply Marxism to personal preferences and desired behaviors. This notion that CX can simply afford to keep paying 3500 pilots and well over ten thousand flight attendants reflect unrealistic views of finance. I argue that those stem from leftist academia upon our youth.
If you want to dispute those assertions, feel free, but don’t just chuck a spear and run away.
The central tenets of my post apply Marxism to personal preferences and desired behaviors. This notion that CX can simply afford to keep paying 3500 pilots and well over ten thousand flight attendants reflect unrealistic views of finance. I argue that those stem from leftist academia upon our youth.
If you want to dispute those assertions, feel free, but don’t just chuck a spear and run away.
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STW. There is a difference between "hoping to not get laid off"...and understanding that at certain times it is necessary to protect the value of the career itself. You are aware of that of course.
Airline pilots never cease to amaze me with their rw capitalist beliefs, the cognitive dissonance is astounding. We have a situation where the airlines are bleeding ****loads of money with long term consequences and cxorist believes in a union leftist FOFO principal. Nowhere in the commercial world would that stand, not in finance, law, accounting or, ****, anywhere but a trade union workshop floor style, workplace.
The likes of cxorist want all the rw claptrap low taxes etc while insisting on the privileges of a tradesperson.
The likes of cxorist want all the rw claptrap low taxes etc while insisting on the privileges of a tradesperson.
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I don't think even you are that thick STW. If the company could force pay cuts through (which we all know would take years to recoup...if ever) to subsidize unneeded crew, the value of the career would be correspondingly reduced, most likely permanently. It's not about the "individual" career that I was referring to, but the overall value of the career of pilot itself (such as Fedex FO's making over $50K usd /mo...yes, that is an FO). You of course know exactly what I was referring to....but you seem to prefer to argue for the sake of it.
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Airline pilots never cease to amaze me with their rw capitalist beliefs, the cognitive dissonance is astounding. We have a situation where the airlines are bleeding ****loads of money with long term consequences and cxorist believes in a union leftist FOFO principal. Nowhere in the commercial world would that stand, not in finance, law, accounting or, ****, anywhere but a trade union workshop floor style, workplace.
The likes of cxorist want all the rw claptrap low taxes etc while insisting on the privileges of a tradesperson.
The likes of cxorist want all the rw claptrap low taxes etc while insisting on the privileges of a tradesperson.
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Couldn't agree more. The airline is bleeding billions, and has hundreds if not over a 1000 pilots too many. Therefore, furlough the required number, as per the contract. That is nothing to do with "union workshop style", and everything to do with what is written in the contract (otherwise, why bother with any contract at all?).
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The public school system really did a number on you exfocx!
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But how is it stupid to hope not getting laid-off ? And why should Cathay aspire to be " an airline where a true pilot career is possible" ( aka grandfathering expensive expats)? In your philosophy, isn't it all only about making money and balance sheets?
In my opinion there is a major flaw in your argument. On the one hand you propose a free capitalist market without "socialist" restrictions, and on the other hand you ask for protection of your own position. But the two concepts don't go together. If you reject categorically "leftist" political views, as you have repeatedly, you need to accept this goes both ways. If the table turns, then Smith's invisible hand, that capitalists love so much, this time might form a fist and hit you where it hurts. And no, I certainly don't hope for that, I have the same contract as you after all.
In my opinion there is a major flaw in your argument. On the one hand you propose a free capitalist market without "socialist" restrictions, and on the other hand you ask for protection of your own position. But the two concepts don't go together. If you reject categorically "leftist" political views, as you have repeatedly, you need to accept this goes both ways. If the table turns, then Smith's invisible hand, that capitalists love so much, this time might form a fist and hit you where it hurts. And no, I certainly don't hope for that, I have the same contract as you after all.
Autocrats far prefer socialism to true capitalism because, for them, it’s all about controlling the people (laborers). Capitalism within an open economy gives free movement to labor, which is why corporations sign long term contracts to secure its labor.
You public school propogandized really, really need to put your thinking caps on...
Other than for pilots there are is no SENORITY. Management will decide who goes and who stays and LIFO.......lololol..... they've never heard of it.
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Btw, I do think flying is different for a number of reasons (seniority), but it just ****s me to tears when I see rw pilots who take what is an organised labour position when it suits them.
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Sorry Man !!! Some of us might not be so serious to even check what we are writing !!! I will try to get to your level one day !!!!
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You could try, but good luck! They really like people who don't take things serious on these COS18 contracts, you would fit in well. How does that saying go again... You pay peanuts, expect to get... Oh dear can't remember the rest, but anyway!