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So I’m reading (while under CV19 hotel arrest in LA) that due to China’s law changes in Hong Kong, the USA is going to treat Hong Kong as part of mainland China. As I understand it, Hong Kong acts as a go between for trade between China and the rest of the world because it has a western style legal system which protects contracts and agreements signed by international corporations. This changes everything right? If this is the future for Hong Kong, big corporations will pull out quick smart.
Its a huge disaster right?
Its a huge disaster right?
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Definitely a big blow for Hong Kong, but not devastating in my opinion.
China will remain the most important market of the future. Trump is fuming about China on Twitter, but if you look at the actual numbers you will see that trade with China under him has actually increased, not decreased. Additionally, Trump will not be able to form any alliance against China with other Western countries, he simply burned too many bridges. And only an alliance of the united West would be powerful enough to force China into negotiations.
China seems determined and willing to accept short-term trade difficulties with the US in exchange of increasing influence in Hong Kong. That is the reality.
Possibly Hong Kong will lose more market share to Singapore or Shanghai, probably lose citizen rights, probably lose credibility and be less attractive for expats.
But in my opinion, Hong Kong will remain a very important trade and financial centre. It doesn't have to be perfect, just better than Shanghai or Shenzen. And the market is simply too big to be served just by Shanghai alone anyway.
Even if Hong Kong will shift to a more Asian-focused role, the numbers are breathtaking. China has a population that is four times the size of the US, Asia 15 times. The EU, biggest trade blok in the world, will not impose any barriers, possibly will even sign a major trade deal in October this year.
Markets in Asia will continue to evolve and trade especially within Asia will grow strongly, and so will Hong Kong.
China will remain the most important market of the future. Trump is fuming about China on Twitter, but if you look at the actual numbers you will see that trade with China under him has actually increased, not decreased. Additionally, Trump will not be able to form any alliance against China with other Western countries, he simply burned too many bridges. And only an alliance of the united West would be powerful enough to force China into negotiations.
China seems determined and willing to accept short-term trade difficulties with the US in exchange of increasing influence in Hong Kong. That is the reality.
Possibly Hong Kong will lose more market share to Singapore or Shanghai, probably lose citizen rights, probably lose credibility and be less attractive for expats.
But in my opinion, Hong Kong will remain a very important trade and financial centre. It doesn't have to be perfect, just better than Shanghai or Shenzen. And the market is simply too big to be served just by Shanghai alone anyway.
Even if Hong Kong will shift to a more Asian-focused role, the numbers are breathtaking. China has a population that is four times the size of the US, Asia 15 times. The EU, biggest trade blok in the world, will not impose any barriers, possibly will even sign a major trade deal in October this year.
Markets in Asia will continue to evolve and trade especially within Asia will grow strongly, and so will Hong Kong.
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So I’m reading (while under CV19 hotel arrest in LA) that due to China’s law changes in Hong Kong, the USA is going to treat Hong Kong as part of mainland China. As I understand it, Hong Kong acts as a go between for trade between China and the rest of the world because it has a western style legal system which protects contracts and agreements signed by international corporations. This changes everything right? If this is the future for Hong Kong, big corporations will pull out quick smart.
Its a huge disaster right?
Its a huge disaster right?
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Once business returns, the index could well exceed 400 within the year.
A friend had their village house in SK listed for 20 mil last few months. They’ve just resisted it at 28 mil . Thats a big gain , and they may increase it again if the get a decent offer.
Mad, but true.
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Hong Kong as we know it is finished. The coming battle of wills between the totalitarian CCP and the determined US G will leave HK as the beaten victim in the middle. There is really no hope for the future, as Xi perceives HK as a threat to his power, and is not willing to allow that threat to continue. HK will be crushed. Don't doubt it. Its golden era is over.
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Hey the Commies are coming ! The commies are coming !
Oh.....they're here.
Ya.....wouldn't plan on much of a future. Communism turns everything it touches to shiite. Perhaps a very few get rich but all those folks in the middle who used to prosper -- Off to the gulags and daily indoctrination sessions from devil Mao.
Well, I guess that's that. As they say in the gold biz looks like this vein has played out.
Oh.....they're here.
Ya.....wouldn't plan on much of a future. Communism turns everything it touches to shiite. Perhaps a very few get rich but all those folks in the middle who used to prosper -- Off to the gulags and daily indoctrination sessions from devil Mao.
Well, I guess that's that. As they say in the gold biz looks like this vein has played out.
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He didn’t say it sold for $28 mil..he just said they listed it for $28 mil. You can buy my house in NZ for $2 mil if you want..and if you want, I have a bridge I can sell you too..??
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I've been to HKG many times, I just love going there but if I have to apply for a visa to go there in future then I will flag it and cross it off my visiting list. Seems like Big Brother up the road is intent of circumventing the autonomy that's supposed to be in force until 2047. This latest law is just the starting point. MARK MY WORDS !!!!!!!! I feel sorry for you all 
sadly the special status of Hong Kong is not going to be worth a piece of #%^&*
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Big Brother ??
I've been to HKG many times, I just love going there but if I have to apply for a visa to go there in future then I will flag it and cross it off my visiting list. Seems like Big Brother up the road is intent of circumventing the autonomy that's supposed to be in force until 2047. This latest law is just the starting point. MARK MY WORDS !!!!!!!! I feel sorry for you all sadly the special status of Hong Kong is not going to be worth a piece of #%^&*
sadly the special status of Hong Kong is not going to be worth a piece of #%^&*
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https://www.regulationasia.com/us-sc...ng-ipo-market/
The dollar peg allows IPO's in Hong Kong to generate USD. Shenzen and Shanghai can't do that.
The dollar peg allows IPO's in Hong Kong to generate USD. Shenzen and Shanghai can't do that.
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Ha Ha
https://www.regulationasia.com/us-sc...ng-ipo-market/
The dollar peg allows IPO's in Hong Kong to generate USD. Shenzen and Shanghai can't do that.
The dollar peg allows IPO's in Hong Kong to generate USD. Shenzen and Shanghai can't do that.
That includes the once masters of CX.. Their malls and airplanes are empty and the red menace from the North has thrown their Royal Flush on the table.. Game over !!
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You don't understand.
Hong Kong doesn' t have to be special as in perfect. It only needs to be better than Shanghai.
Hong Kong doesn' t have to be special as in perfect. It only needs to be better than Shanghai.
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I think this is wrong.
China will never allow the main stock market of Chinese companies to be outside of the country.
1.4 Billion people will always have a financial centre in their own country, probably multiple ones. 400 million Europeans have London, Paris, Dublin, Frankfurt, Milan, Zurich and Geneva.
If you look at the numbers you will see the difference. Just compare the IPO volume of Singapore with Hong Kong. By market cap HK is five times bigger than Singapore, four times bigger volume in IPO's. Likely, this will increase with more Chinese companies looking for second listings in HK.
Additionally, Singapore will never provide foreign companies the same level of market access as Hong Kong.
PS and for the human rights aspect, try to protest in Singapore. you would last about 2 minutes
China will never allow the main stock market of Chinese companies to be outside of the country.
1.4 Billion people will always have a financial centre in their own country, probably multiple ones. 400 million Europeans have London, Paris, Dublin, Frankfurt, Milan, Zurich and Geneva.
If you look at the numbers you will see the difference. Just compare the IPO volume of Singapore with Hong Kong. By market cap HK is five times bigger than Singapore, four times bigger volume in IPO's. Likely, this will increase with more Chinese companies looking for second listings in HK.
Additionally, Singapore will never provide foreign companies the same level of market access as Hong Kong.
PS and for the human rights aspect, try to protest in Singapore. you would last about 2 minutes
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For every BNO that thinks the UK is the answer there’s 10 Chinese willing to move in who aren’t prepared to wait for Shanghai and Beijing to enter the 20th century.
Hong Kong has never been better than Singapore. Never will be. But Singapore will (probably) never be China.
If you’re a mercenary then there’s money to be made. However if you’re an expat who wants a western lifestyle then tragically the UK actually does look attractive now.
