CX requires a complete cleansing...
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That might not be too bad. The KA crews did ok when they were owned mostly by the PRC
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The only point I agree with the Thread Starter is regarding the Jepp Rostering system.
The rest was unwarranted attack on a hypothetical Character ignoring the fact that it always takes two to Tango.
Putting a blame on one gender is sexist at best.
You also have to live with the fact that this company is part of a larger empire, and the puppet masters have the right to choose.
No matter who the CEO is, it is a fact that major decisions come from higher authorities.
Directors are just that “To direct”.
Swire, right or wrong, have managed to survive for decades.
They are also waiting for the “Who’s going to blink first” scenario along with other major airlines.
The rest was unwarranted attack on a hypothetical Character ignoring the fact that it always takes two to Tango.
Putting a blame on one gender is sexist at best.
You also have to live with the fact that this company is part of a larger empire, and the puppet masters have the right to choose.
No matter who the CEO is, it is a fact that major decisions come from higher authorities.
Directors are just that “To direct”.
Swire, right or wrong, have managed to survive for decades.
They are also waiting for the “Who’s going to blink first” scenario along with other major airlines.
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The only point I agree with the Thread Starter is regarding the Jepp Rostering system.
The rest was unwarranted attack on a hypothetical Character ignoring the fact that it always takes two to Tango.
Putting a blame on one gender is sexist at best.
You also have to live with the fact that this company is part of a larger empire, and the puppet masters have the right to choose.
No matter who the CEO is, it is a fact that major decisions come from higher authorities.
Directors are just that “To direct”.
Swire, right or wrong, have managed to survive for decades.
They are also waiting for the “Who’s going to blink first” scenario along with other major airlines.
The rest was unwarranted attack on a hypothetical Character ignoring the fact that it always takes two to Tango.
Putting a blame on one gender is sexist at best.
You also have to live with the fact that this company is part of a larger empire, and the puppet masters have the right to choose.
No matter who the CEO is, it is a fact that major decisions come from higher authorities.
Directors are just that “To direct”.
Swire, right or wrong, have managed to survive for decades.
They are also waiting for the “Who’s going to blink first” scenario along with other major airlines.
Name one other airline where the major decisions are made by the board of a minority shareholder rather than by the airline’s board?
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From what I understand Swire Pacific owns 45%, Air China 30% and Qatar 10%. Effectively making the airline a sort of partnership where SP has the overriding majority. So SP has the overall hammer with AC having a significant potential voice in the matter and Qatar getting a token opinion.
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Not to quibble, but I think this a bit misleading.
From what I understand Swire Pacific owns 45%, Air China 30% and Qatar 10%. Effectively making the airline a sort of partnership where SP has the overriding majority. So SP has the overall hammer with AC having a significant potential voice in the matter and Qatar getting a token opinion.
From what I understand Swire Pacific owns 45%, Air China 30% and Qatar 10%. Effectively making the airline a sort of partnership where SP has the overriding majority. So SP has the overall hammer with AC having a significant potential voice in the matter and Qatar getting a token opinion.
By definition a minority shareholder is any shareholder that owns less than 51% of a company. Every single company on the planet has a largest shareholder. Yet it’s rare that the largest shareholder has management rights when they’re a minority shareholder.
My question still stands. Name one other airline that is run by the board of a minority shareholder. Particularly a minority shareholder that has numerous related interests.
A follow up question. When was the last time a decision made by the JSSHK management team at the airline was the subject of a conflict of interest review?
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Everyone is tending to get bogged down in side issues , The initial thrust of Trafs brilliant thread is totally correct CX needs a spring clean .
There is a similarity between this and the Carrier captain that was recently fired for daring to care about his sailors . By drawing attention to the situation he embarrassed the high ups and had to pay . Well the navy secretary has now gone due to his Incompetent handling of this issue . So there is some justice elsewhere ,
But who at CX has been fired for the fuel hedging disaster ? Who decided that it was a good idea to alienate your workforce .?
Why Aren’t pilot managers held to the same rules as the rest of us ?
trafalgar is right Cx needs a clean sweep , employ someone who knows what they are doing , get the employees back on side and work for a well run company
There is a similarity between this and the Carrier captain that was recently fired for daring to care about his sailors . By drawing attention to the situation he embarrassed the high ups and had to pay . Well the navy secretary has now gone due to his Incompetent handling of this issue . So there is some justice elsewhere ,
But who at CX has been fired for the fuel hedging disaster ? Who decided that it was a good idea to alienate your workforce .?
Why Aren’t pilot managers held to the same rules as the rest of us ?
trafalgar is right Cx needs a clean sweep , employ someone who knows what they are doing , get the employees back on side and work for a well run company
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There’s quibbling and then there’s being wrong.
By definition a minority shareholder is any shareholder that owns less than 51% of a company. Every single company on the planet has a largest shareholder. Yet it’s rare that the largest shareholder has management rights when they’re a minority shareholder.
My question still stands. Name one other airline that is run by the board of a minority shareholder. Particularly a minority shareholder that has numerous related interests.
A follow up question. When was the last time a decision made by the JSSHK management team at the airline was the subject of a conflict of interest review?
By definition a minority shareholder is any shareholder that owns less than 51% of a company. Every single company on the planet has a largest shareholder. Yet it’s rare that the largest shareholder has management rights when they’re a minority shareholder.
My question still stands. Name one other airline that is run by the board of a minority shareholder. Particularly a minority shareholder that has numerous related interests.
A follow up question. When was the last time a decision made by the JSSHK management team at the airline was the subject of a conflict of interest review?
Because of grandfathered B shares voting rights, Swire, the controlling shareholder has 29% of the equity but 52.2% voting control.
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Changes, "a clean sweep" will NEVER occur... It's in the companies DNA ! So much so that Swires, being unable to source automatons closely aligned to their "management style", set up their own management training program in HK. This outlet continues to belch Swire management glad handers spewing pre programmed Swire propaganda with the built in "yes" response..
This "downturn" is NOT going to end, travel wise, for years.. I can't see anyone in the West being attracted to a China vacation for the next decade.. Be nimble
This "downturn" is NOT going to end, travel wise, for years.. I can't see anyone in the West being attracted to a China vacation for the next decade.. Be nimble
