Is CX still a good choice for new pilot?

[Caelius.P]

Greetings!
I just saw there is a Second Officer direct entry program in CX website. I took my FAA Commercial Piot License with Instrument Rating(With 500hrs only) in the United State when I was in university there. I'm now a post-graduate student in HKUST, and I want to work as a pilot instead of a geek wallow in data anaysis.
I've read some topics here in pprune that lots of pilot in CX were discontented because of COS18.To be honest, the salary (530000 as SO,900000? as FO) sounds OK for me, because in Mainland China local FO only got 25k-30k a month, CAPT operates narrow-body domestic flight only got 50k-70k. I prefer SQ but I don't have ICAO rating/ATPL/type rating for any aircraft. Is CX good for a new pilot or CX is my only choice?

[CxEx2]

Originally Posted by Caelius.P

Greetings!
I just saw there is a Second Officer direct entry program in CX website. I took my FAA Commercial Piot License with Instrument Rating(With 500hrs only) in the United State when I was in university there. I'm now a post-graduate student in HKUST, and I want to work as a pilot instead of a geek wallow in data anaysis.
I've read some topics here in pprune that lots of pilot in CX were discontented because of COS18.To be honest, the salary (530000 as SO,900000? as FO) sounds OK for me, because in Mainland China local FO only got 25k-30k a month, CAPT operates narrow-body domestic flight only got 50k-70k. I prefer SQ but I don't have ICAO rating/ATPL/type rating for any aircraft. Is CX good for a new pilot or CX is my only choice?

This must be a wind up

[cxorcist]

Are you genuinely asking or have you already made up your mind and just seeking affirmation like most of those on here willing to jump at a very bad deal???

[Caelius.P]

Seems it is sooooooooooo bad?

[Caelius.P]

I still wondering right now. I've got some other choices for my career. But the salary sounds 'good' from CX compare to many other jobs. You know, it is hard to find a proper job this year.

[Caelius.P]

I really need help for my decision. I am a hobby flyer. I love aviation since young,flying RC models,PC simulators,and tiny C172/DA42 for fun.But I never go inside the airline industry as a professional pilots before.

From the ADs of CX,the job seems quite good,but I would not totally believe ADs because I'm not 3 years old now. But every job/company have two sides. As you know it is very hard to hunt a proper job in this chaos city this year as a fresh graduate. I got some other choices work as white collar in office taking 20-25k at the first beginning. I may be far more competitive as a data analyser because my academic background, and don't have competitive as a pilot because no experience and ratings.
I enjoy the Work Hard Play Hard lifestyle. Lots of OTs as a white collar work in Central is doomsday for me. So... Does CX give the promise base annual salary? No meetings/trainings in day-off or between duty？

[Apple Tree Yard]

If not for the comedy value, this place would be worthless. Priceless!

[Dilbert68]

Originally Posted by cxorcist

Are you genuinely asking or have you already made up your mind and just seeking affirmation like most of those on here willing to jump at a very bad deal???

Clearly the latter. No experience, English level 3, willing to accept conditions that an actual pilot with experience would laugh at. CX will take you with open arms.

[Slasher1]

Ya know, I kinda enjoy going to a car dealer and shopping around; especially if I don't particularly need a new car.

Invariably, at some point a salesman will attempt to place me in something well beyond what I would need or even want and then attempt to sell me on how I might be able to afford it. I always like saying "well, if I really wanted to I could probably leverage enough capital to buy this dealership--but for me that'd be pretty dumb and is something I don't want to do despite the fact it seems like a nice place and you seem like a nice enough guy."

Likewise, there is a continuous stream of 'borrow money from me' credit card (at some teaser introductory rate followed by something stupid like 21%) averts in the mail. Or take out some type of mortgage equity loan (at again a higher interest rate than a thinking man would pay).

In fact, teaser rates and rationalization almost made the world economy collapse in 2008 (and did wind up significantly devaluing some currencies over a span of a few years).

Bottom line is you can talk yourself into doing some really stupid things if you have powerful rationalization skills. But given the copious information on conditions here there is not a soul who will have any sympathy for your self made plight. Best o' luck !

[ksksyujk]

don't worry about it

[ksksyujk]

Originally Posted by Caelius.P

I really need help for my decision. I am a hobby flyer. I love aviation since young,flying RC models,PC simulators,and tiny C172/DA42 for fun.But I never go inside the airline industry as a professional pilots before.

From the ADs of CX,the job seems quite good,but I would not totally believe ADs because I'm not 3 years old now. But every job/company have two sides. As you know it is very hard to hunt a proper job in this chaos city this year as a fresh graduate. I got some other choices work as white collar in office taking 20-25k at the first beginning. I may be far more competitive as a data analyser because my academic background, and don't have competitive as a pilot because no experience and ratings.
I enjoy the Work Hard Play Hard lifestyle. Lots of OTs as a white collar work in Central is doomsday for me. So... Does CX give the promise base annual salary? No meetings/trainings in day-off or between duty？

Hey Caelius, the package from CX COS18 is still great and it is still the best you can realistically get these days. Where else can you find an airline job who would provide full type training for people with no or very low hours. Yes you have to repay 50% of the training cost for 3 years after you join but even with that, the package is still way better than most of the graduate jobs in HK (Gov't AO is on pay scale 27 which is about the same as a starting SO) Do you really want to be a flying instructor, cropdusting or skydiving pilots with a pitful salary in some outback town you can't even pronounce?

It is a fact that pilot package is not going get any better and keep looking back to how great A/B scale was isn't going to make you any happier. So if flying is what you love to do then study well for your interview and start your career sooner rather than later. Don't worry about all those "you have no experience/ can't do an IGS 13/ ICAO 3/ scarping the barrel" type comments you will no doubt find here or on the line, keep working and studying hard; see you on the line soon.

[Climb150]

If time from SO to FO was 18 months and not 4-5 years it might be a slightly better proposition. Anyone who tries to tell me SO time is less than that you are being lied to.

There are decent companies out there but people working for good companies have little reason to come on pprune and complain.

[Oddball77]

Originally Posted by Caelius.P

Greetings!
I just saw there is a Second Officer direct entry program in CX website. I took my FAA Commercial Piot License with Instrument Rating(With 500hrs only) in the United State when I was in university there. I'm now a post-graduate student in HKUST, and I want to work as a pilot instead of a geek wallow in data anaysis.
I've read some topics here in pprune that lots of pilot in CX were discontented because of COS18.To be honest, the salary (530000 as SO,900000? as FO) sounds OK for me, because in Mainland China local FO only got 25k-30k a month, CAPT operates narrow-body domestic flight only got 50k-70k. I prefer SQ but I don't have ICAO rating/ATPL/type rating for any aircraft. Is CX good for a new pilot or CX is my only choice?

900K per annum as FO 'if' you fly the required hours. Question is how will you feel sitting next to someone who owns two houses in HK and one back in Oz or UK doing the same job as you’re doing but the only difference is he/she joined the company ten years earlier than you did. If it's ok for you, then join.

[Hey_pahlot]

Excuse my ignorance, but are they complaining that they aren't getting the guaretneed 581,608 HKD or because they aren't getting close to the projected 759,800 HKD?

[cxorcist]

CoS18 has to die. It’s simply embarrassing that guys are accepting this, a true abortion of a contract. The guaranteed salary is not livable in HK, not with any reasonable standard of living. Single? Maybe. Hitched? Hope s/he has a decent paying job. Kids? Forget about it. I feel sorry for guys and gals on this deal. It’s one thing not to have housing. This is a joke, and you’re a joke if you accept it. It’s D scale, at best!

[Slasher1]

Originally Posted by cxorcist

CoS18 has to die. It’s simply embarrassing that guys are accepting this, a true abortion of a contract. The guaranteed salary is not livable in HK, not with any reasonable standard of living. Single? Maybe. Hitched? Hope s/he has a decent paying job. Kids? Forget about it. I feel sorry for guys and gals on this deal. It’s one thing not to have housing. This is a joke, and you’re a joke if you accept it. It’s D scale, at best!

Question: What’s the difference between a $10 whore and a $500 whore ?

Answer: The $500 whore still has some sense of self value and self respect.

[cxorcist]

Originally Posted by Slasher1

Question: What’s the difference between a $10 whore and a $500 whore ?

Answer: The $500 whore still has some sense of self value and self respect.

A crude way of viewing the situation, but shockingly accurate.

[CanadaGooseJacket]

Cathay Pacific Advanced Entry Second Officer

Hello,

I have heard elsewhere that hiring is currently frozen for this position?
Can somebody in the know shed some light on the situation?
Will more SOs be needed in the near future?

Thank you

[oriental flyer]

The job may look attractive when you simply look at the salary on offer . However when you get to HK you are in for some serious sticker shock . The cost of living is very high in comparison to most other countries , rent is ridiculous for what you get , never mind the cost of electricity , food , entertainment . But hey if you’re hell bent Go for your life but don’t say you weren’t warned

[Natca]

Its confirmed, pilot recruitmemt has stopped / been “suspended”