HK is dying
Today one of the two supermarkets in our estate was shuttered as they could not get re-supplied. The other had queues for China outside and limited stocks. IFC Mall, a massive modern shopping precinct which has the next nearest was closed, and the MTR was shut down city-wide, with very limited bus services provided by MTRC.
I am uncertain whether MTRC are following government orders to create more civil chaos so as to justify the government crack down, or if the complete metro network was shut to enable a few stations to be repaired after the unrest.
Not a fun place to be right now.
I am uncertain whether MTRC are following government orders to create more civil chaos so as to justify the government crack down, or if the complete metro network was shut to enable a few stations to be repaired after the unrest.
Not a fun place to be right now.
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Today one of the two supermarkets in our estate was shuttered as they could not get re-supplied. The other had queues for China outside and limited stocks. IFC Mall, a massive modern shopping precinct which has the next nearest was closed, and the MTR was shut down city-wide, with very limited bus services provided by MTRC.
I am uncertain whether MTRC are following government orders to create more civil chaos so as to justify the government crack down, or if the complete metro network was shut to enable a few stations to be repaired after the unrest.
Not a fun place to be right now.
I am uncertain whether MTRC are following government orders to create more civil chaos so as to justify the government crack down, or if the complete metro network was shut to enable a few stations to be repaired after the unrest.
Not a fun place to be right now.
Oh and by the way, no groceries at Taste and the other high end shops is simply CX's altruistic way of forcing cargo rates up.. IT's LEGAL and just take a wild guess who'll pay ?
Hong Kong, its government and hongs sold their souls many years ago to High End "clients" from the North and this to the detriment of those resident in Hong Kong. Looks likely now that nasty chicken may have come home to roost.. M Goi Sai ;-)
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Food shortages throughout HK. No fresh meat in many local supermarkets.
But thank god Sai Kung is not affected. Praise the lord the pilot wives are ok in DB, McSorleys is doing just fine.
Pumpkins are still selling at $200 a piece, our kids will be fine. Life is still good.
But thank god Sai Kung is not affected. Praise the lord the pilot wives are ok in DB, McSorleys is doing just fine.
Pumpkins are still selling at $200 a piece, our kids will be fine. Life is still good.
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I can think of nowhere worse for my family and loved ones to be during times of strife, civil insurrection, or natural disaster than a large mega city.
Simply amazing how communism (even commie light) destroys everything it touches.
Simply amazing how communism (even commie light) destroys everything it touches.
They are fighting for their future and liberty , something that you (and I) take for granted. It’s worthwhile taking the effort to understand what is at stake here before making unkind comments like these.
The passenger numbers look interesting... 5.99 million passengers in August translates to approx 8050 per hour or 134 per minute, 24/7.
That seems exceedingly high and is a 12% drop from previous months ??
Not sure why there is such a rise in civil unrest, not just in HK but some other places..... all I know is that from what I have read, these protests and unrests could go on for years.
HK was on my bucket list for places to visit for a short holiday. I am not sure I would risk going there for quite a while now, maybe never in my lifetime.
I have some very old scanned transparencies scanned somewhere taken by one of my late aunts back in the 1930s or 1940s and it would have been very interesting to visit HK and to try to match up where they were taken.
I do hope that things settle down very soon without any more injuries
That seems exceedingly high and is a 12% drop from previous months ??
Not sure why there is such a rise in civil unrest, not just in HK but some other places..... all I know is that from what I have read, these protests and unrests could go on for years.
HK was on my bucket list for places to visit for a short holiday. I am not sure I would risk going there for quite a while now, maybe never in my lifetime.
I have some very old scanned transparencies scanned somewhere taken by one of my late aunts back in the 1930s or 1940s and it would have been very interesting to visit HK and to try to match up where they were taken.
I do hope that things settle down very soon without any more injuries
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Paul. I wouldn't hesitate to visit, even now. The picture of HK that you perceive on the television isn't quite the reality of day to day life here. Yes, on weekends there are protests, usually at selected parts of town. Advised well in advance. The rest of HK, life goes on as normal. To be quite honest, it's almost a form of entertainment at this point (not denigrating the seriousness of the issue however). HK is still one of the safest and most interesting cities on earth. Just a shame that it's cursed with a useless and tone deaf leadership. They deserve all the condemnation coming their way. If you ignore the needs of your population long enough, this is what you end up with. Regardless, come and enjoy HK. It's still a great city.
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I live here, as I guess you do, and have done for the last 20 years. I fully understand that for most of HK, most of the time, life goes on as normal. Although in the last few days we have been under a semi-curfew with the MTR and most shops closing by early evening, (7-Eleven have closed the last 3 nights in a row - that is unprecedented - 7-Eleven never closes!)
Yes, there's a "reality TV" aspect to it if you're not actively out on the streets protesting (I was in the earlier big legal marches). And yes the "leadership" (which is no such thing of course) is utterly useless.
When 12 year old girls feel strongly enough to get arrested on the street then the road back is going to be long and hard.
Yes, there's a "reality TV" aspect to it if you're not actively out on the streets protesting (I was in the earlier big legal marches). And yes the "leadership" (which is no such thing of course) is utterly useless.
When 12 year old girls feel strongly enough to get arrested on the street then the road back is going to be long and hard.
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I wonder if HK isn’t now on a slow, painful, and irreversible slide towards being like every other Mainland Chinese city. Business will decline, gradually, to a new normal which is far less robust and dynamic than in decades past. Popularity with Westerners, and even other Asians, will decline and be more from nostalgia than excitement. This will lead to a worse economy, lower wages, and a lower standard of living. Communism (socialism) always ends in the same fate. Centralized government can only compensate for so long, and then.... Venezuela!
China’s future isn’t great either. The rest of the world has caught onto their scam, and the cheap labor isn’t that cheap anymore. The population has a horrific demographic problem, and the natural environment is essentially poisonously toxic. There is a precarious lack of natural resources, and pretty much everybody sees China for what they are now. The ostriches of the world are finally pulling their collective heads out of the sand, except for the most ideological, short-term greedy, and obtuse.
Is it over for HK? No, but it is dying a slow, painful death. What remains will be a mere shell of its prior self. If anyone can see a different ending, please spit it out because I’m struggling to find positives at this point.
China’s future isn’t great either. The rest of the world has caught onto their scam, and the cheap labor isn’t that cheap anymore. The population has a horrific demographic problem, and the natural environment is essentially poisonously toxic. There is a precarious lack of natural resources, and pretty much everybody sees China for what they are now. The ostriches of the world are finally pulling their collective heads out of the sand, except for the most ideological, short-term greedy, and obtuse.
Is it over for HK? No, but it is dying a slow, painful death. What remains will be a mere shell of its prior self. If anyone can see a different ending, please spit it out because I’m struggling to find positives at this point.
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I wonder if HK isn’t now on a slow, painful, and irreversible slide towards being like every other Mainland Chinese city. Business will decline, gradually, to a new normal which is far less robust and dynamic than in decades past. Popularity with Westerners, and even other Asians, will decline and be more from nostalgia than excitement. This will lead to a worse economy, lower wages, and a lower standard of living. Communism (socialism) always ends in the same fate. Centralized government can only compensate for so long, and then.... Venezuela!
China’s future isn’t great either. The rest of the world has caught onto their scam, and the cheap labor isn’t that cheap anymore. The population has a horrific demographic problem, and the natural environment is essentially poisonously toxic. There is a precarious lack of natural resources, and pretty much everybody sees China for what they are now. The ostriches of the world are finally pulling their collective heads out of the sand, except for the most ideological, short-term greedy, and obtuse.
Is it over for HK? No, but it is dying a slow, painful death. What remains will be a mere shell of its prior self. If anyone can see a different ending, please spit it out because I’m struggling to find positives at this point.
China’s future isn’t great either. The rest of the world has caught onto their scam, and the cheap labor isn’t that cheap anymore. The population has a horrific demographic problem, and the natural environment is essentially poisonously toxic. There is a precarious lack of natural resources, and pretty much everybody sees China for what they are now. The ostriches of the world are finally pulling their collective heads out of the sand, except for the most ideological, short-term greedy, and obtuse.
Is it over for HK? No, but it is dying a slow, painful death. What remains will be a mere shell of its prior self. If anyone can see a different ending, please spit it out because I’m struggling to find positives at this point.
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Positives are that the rioters want either distribution of wealth through some sort of socialist facist democratic country, or everyone who has any wealth to lose it all as they burn the place down. So you could say, as the place burns to the ground and companies relocate offices to mainland China, that a positive is that the rioters will get what they want and all those that supported them with their "peaceful" marches can also pat themselves on the back.
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So, some of the worst pollution in the world AND police shooting protesters (rioters), so wish I'd stayed and raised my kids in this 
If it wasn't for COS18 I'd be back in a heartbeat
If it wasn't for COS18 I'd be back in a heartbeat
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Is this what’s going on in HK? Or is it something else? There is a big difference between fighting against fascism for the rights of freedom and democracy AND fighting for “social justice” to combat “income inequality”. It can be argued that the forced transfer of wealth and “rights for me but not for thee” is quite fascist too.
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To make a long and complicated story short and simple, basically the HK Government, because it is not elected and hence need not act in the interests of the demos, is, in practice, a means of syphoning more and more of the people's money to a small cartel of hyper-rich property developers and the construction industry. The HK Government has a huge amount of money, gathered essentially through "land premiums" which is a tax passed on to the people through inflated property prices, which it then spends on white elephant infrastructure projects (bridge to Macau, high-speed rail link, forthcoming "East Lantau Metropolis") thereby transferring that money to the construction/property cartel. The established career path on (early) retirement from the HK Civil Service (already one of the highest paid in the world) is to directorships and other senior positions within that cartel, where they are richly remunerated (yes, even more than the most senior Cathay A scale captain!) for their earlier cooperation.