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The End of HK as we know it

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The End of HK as we know it

Old 2nd Sep 2019, 10:04
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With the Chinese mentality, Hong Kong will have to be punished for all this. Something targeted at the economy would be my guess.
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Old 2nd Sep 2019, 12:09
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Maybe Mrs Lam will be sent to a re-education camp"?
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Old 2nd Sep 2019, 13:20
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Communism.

It makes smoking look healthy.
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Old 2nd Sep 2019, 13:51
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Originally Posted by Slasher1 View Post
Communism.

It makes smoking look healthy.
Ironically, there is nothing, strictly speaking, Communist about any of this situation. The Chinese are a one party dictatorship, but in no way communist, except in name. Such is the problem with ďcommunismĒ and, to a lesser extent, socialism. Political power is consolidated within the government and away from the people. Eventually, it always leads to oppression. That so much of the globe fails to learn from history is remarkable. I guess the allure of free stuff is just too great.

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Old 2nd Sep 2019, 14:22
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Self-destruct mode. I think the present problems are a wonderful piece of social engineering by the PRC, and plenty of gullible HK local’s are so blind to it that they happy to assist them.
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Old 2nd Sep 2019, 17:05
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triple7driver (now there's a handle to ponder...) Ummm I think that the vile word "racist" is apt for those who see other races as virulently different from themselves. The last time I looked the vast majority of, "Hong Kong locals" as you call them are of the same race as those who live in the mainland.

When you wish to use words loaded with bile, be sure to check your premises.

Oh and I disagree with the other paragraphs of you post too, FWIW
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Old 2nd Sep 2019, 17:14
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Money Laundering

Originally Posted by triple7driver View Post
China will never intervene. They will not send in the PLA (which is already in the Hong Kong garrison btw). For China this would kill the concept of One China Two Systems for Taiwan.

End of the day, China just doesn't need Hong Kong anymore... they will let Hong Kong slowly destroy itself and rot. The only thing that would cause the PLA to come in is if there was a serious threat of independence - which there isn't. The people who think independence is a viable, good thing for Hong Kong are in the minority.

China will focus their time and efforts on developing the other regions of the Greater Bay Area and leave Hong Kong as the forgotten city that will look back on it's past days of glory.

All the problems in Hong Kong now are of its own making - expensive housing, lack of social assistance, lack of social mobility - it's not China but China makes for an easy target.

I think deep down most Hong Kong locals are just racist and think they are better than the Mainland. They don't see themselves as Chinese... yet the rest of the world only sees them as just that - that's the sad part.
HK has been the spigot for the $ Trillions that have gushed out of China, they know this but once across the border, hard to catch those that do - UNLESS you pass this law..
Also Carrie Lam crying crocodile tears is BS.. She was a "pre-approved" yes person by the PRC BEFORE she took the job. Every CE for HK since the first one has been.. Communism MO at its finest !!

BTW "Greater Bay Area" - MISAPPROPRIATED (copied) from the USA.. Same as most of the IP across the border..
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Old 2nd Sep 2019, 17:27
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The last time I looked the vast majority of, "Hong Kong locals" as you call them are of the same race as those who live in the mainland.
Tell the Cantonese they are same as mainland? You definitely don't know the Chinese culture.
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Old 2nd Sep 2019, 18:50
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This isnít about race imo. Itís about freedom. The HK people (all races) have it and wish to keep it. The Chinese government doesnít like freedom because it threatens their hold on power. They rule with absolute power expressed via coercion and oppression. Freedom threatens that form of governance. I donít think the CCP really cares much about HK one way or another, but they do care about its symbolism as an example for Mainland cities and Taiwan. Thatís why this uprising must be crushed. They are hoping to do it with as little force as possible so as to not upset the international community, but they will use whatever is necessary (including the PLA and outright martial law).
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Old 3rd Sep 2019, 00:46
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Singapore Chinese look down on those from mainland China, why would Hong Kong be different.
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Old 3rd Sep 2019, 04:55
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After observing the mainlanders in HK over the past decade, it's not too difficult to understand why the HK chinese loath them. From their attitudes, vulgar manners, aggressive behaviour, complete lack of understanding of HK culture and their distortion of our local property market, they have effectively come across as an invading army. On top of that, you have the mainland Govt threatening the entire established culture of HK and it's citizens. Not too difficult to understand that the great guerilla war of 2019 has begun. Just walked by a sign in Soho: "Give me Democracy or give me Death". Most of the young in HK realise that they must fight, or die trying. More strength of character than the average CX pilot I must admit (and a 100% more than any of our management).
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Old 3rd Sep 2019, 05:00
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Nice to see that CX is now publicly smearing the entire cabin crews involved in the oxygen tank depletion incidents. Another "own goal". CX, poster child of incompetent management. BTW, how's your day going CK.
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Old 3rd Sep 2019, 07:28
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Originally Posted by krismiler View Post
Singapore Chinese look down on those from mainland China, why would Hong Kong be different.
Singapore Chinese look down on EVERYONE. I do recall though when KA first employed the first of a few mainland CC the locals were horrified, mostly because they were to be paid the same as the Hongkanese.
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Old 3rd Sep 2019, 11:38
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And what is the HK culture?
I'm just an ignorant bystander here.
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Old 3rd Sep 2019, 13:15
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And what is the HK culture?
I'm just an ignorant bystander here.
Cantonese with the 6 unique tones.

Enuff said..
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Old 3rd Sep 2019, 16:23
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Originally Posted by oicur12.again View Post
ď....they are killing the goose that laid the golden egg and....Ē

Im interested to know what golden egg HK has that is so valuable to China?
You mean aside from the fact it is one of the most significant financial capitals in the world, on top of being one of the most significant trading ports and a host of other "most" and "best" in various categories... a window to the world for China and a very rich place. If you think that doesn't matter, I suggest you look again.
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Old 3rd Sep 2019, 18:28
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It wonít be for long... Sanya (the island next door) is already expanding there ports as per government planning quietly. They publicized it to be the next Shenzhen, but in reality there using the docks to replace the import/export of Hong Kong. The step next year will be to reduce the import/export taxes lower than HK so that businesses will go over to use them. Itís all part of the government planning in PEK, just wait for reality next year...
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Old 3rd Sep 2019, 20:11
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Originally Posted by Brian304 View Post
It wonít be for long... Sanya (the island next door) is already expanding there ports as per government planning quietly. They publicized it to be the next Shenzhen, but in reality there using the docks to replace the import/export of Hong Kong. The step next year will be to reduce the import/export taxes lower than HK so that businesses will go over to use them. Itís all part of the government planning in PEK, just wait for reality next year...
Nobody wants to ship their transit cargo through Mainland China or worse, do banking there. The events in HK are just further reinforcement of this fact. The problem is that HK now is looking more like the Mainland and capital flight is a real threat. That capital sure as hell ainít going to Sanya!
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Old 4th Sep 2019, 03:31
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Im interested to know what golden egg HK has that is so valuable to China?
Billions of dollars in bank accounts, investment portfolios and properties their owners would rather the mainland authorities not to know about.
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Old 4th Sep 2019, 04:55
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Originally Posted by cxorcist View Post

Nobody wants to ship their transit cargo through Mainland China or worse, do banking there. The events in HK are just further reinforcement of this fact. The problem is that HK now is looking more like the Mainland and capital flight is a real threat. That capital sure as hell ainít going to Sanya!
As the old saying ďMoney is kingĒ, Mainland has the finances to reduce prices to a new low to attract investments.
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