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Old 13th Aug 2019, 16:59
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Having been arrested and through the court system during Occupy I think I do have some understanding of how things work in HK. I have been on a couple of the (legal) protests so far with a friend who is a civilian police employee, and he has no problem with it.

I can't claim the same for CX Management, but I struggle to see how they could fire someone unless they did something that was either illegal, or, whilst identifying as a CX person, bad for CX's image. As a random person walking in a legal procession of several hundred thousand people I can't see that as a dismissable offence. Just on basic statistics, on the 2 million march there must have been at least 15% of CX's workforce.
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Old 13th Aug 2019, 17:18
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....they fired 49 people without any due process, even some that they knew were innocent of any transgression. Simply got their names wrong. Once they figured it out, refused to reinstate them anyway. Our management deserve everything coming their way.
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Old 13th Aug 2019, 18:20
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What I would ask Mrs Lam
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Old 13th Aug 2019, 20:02
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This is the final nail into the coffin. If there were some pilots pondering to leave now the majority are “actively “ pursuing other venues. Time to leave. Sorry it has been a good ride.
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Old 13th Aug 2019, 22:38
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Cathay Management (sic) have been anticipating this for decades. Merlin, with his Billions, is able to leave. I suggest the rest of you do the same ASAP.
What more incentive is there that Cathay Pacific is over……………………….There are far better options elsewhere. (ie Anywhere but this expensive ****hole)
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 00:36
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CX management couldn't "anticipate" their way out of a wet paper bag. They are the reason this airline has failed. It's over everyone. Make your escape plans while there are still options. Won't last for long. CX management? (oxymornon).
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 00:42
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CX is over. The Chinese have 200+ years of resentment to squeeze out of CX. There is no hope of a long term career here. Our management is corrupt, venal and incompetent. The locals hate us, the mainlanders despise us. There is nothing left now other than to witness the epic meltdown that will now engulf HK. It's over.
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 00:46
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Btw, when you have 2,000,000+ plus young citizens of HK who have discovered their power and are willing to exercise that\, believe the HK you've always known is finished. Th\e mainland may try to crush it, but in doing so they will crush HK. There is no positive outcome to this. CX is caught up in the middle of a political and social rupture that will crush them. They have not better hope of changing that than attempting to turn back the tide. CX is finished. Doub that..?, let's discuss 12-24 months from now.
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 01:11
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HK is the ChiComms golden goose. China is a currency manipulator with a surprisingly fragile economy. It has a fiat currency which is less stable than even other fiat currencies.

If you kill the golden goose it no longer lays eggs. So killing the golden goose just because it honks or scoffs at you isn’t a really good idea even if you are mad at it or it makes you look bad to your neighbors.

If the goose gets tired of laying golden eggs for your profit and not its your kinda screwed too.

So the trick is to keep the golden goose kinda happy but still getting your cut.

And if you want to kill the goose out of spite it’s best to wait until you have another gold laying goose working for ya.

I’m not sure to what extent the commies realize this.
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 01:49
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Originally Posted by Slasher1
HK is the ChiComms golden goose. China is a currency manipulator with a surprisingly fragile economy. It has a fiat currency which is less stable than even other fiat currencies.

If you kill the golden goose it no longer lays eggs. So killing the golden goose just because it honks or scoffs at you isn’t a really good idea even if you are mad at it or it makes you look bad to your neighbors.

If the goose gets tired of laying golden eggs for your profit and not its your kinda screwed too.

So the trick is to keep the golden goose kinda happy but still getting your cut.

And if you want to kill the goose out of spite it’s best to wait until you have another gold laying goose working for ya.

I’m not sure to what extent the commies realize this.
Almost completely disagree! The “Commies” care more about staying in power than they do about money. Sure, you need money to stay in power, and I agree that their economy is fragile. Yes, they manipulate their fiat currency and are still highly leveraged to exporting goods. However, they have very deep pockets, and they’d rather kill the “golden goose” than see all the other big cities in Mainland China become like HK politically and socially. I fear this may become much worse. If I thought it were going to blow over, I’d be loading up on CX stock right now, but I’m definitely not going to do that. If one needs to see how far “commies” will go to stay in power, look no further than North Korea.

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Old 14th Aug 2019, 02:02
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I’d be loading up on CX stock right now, but I’m definitely going to do that
I assume you mean "...not going too..."

Anyway, I agree. I have always had $9 as my line in the sand to load up, but now am rethinking that.
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 02:05
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Originally Posted by OK4Wire
I assume you mean "...not going too..."

Anyway, I agree. I have always had $9 as my line in the sand to load up, but now am rethinking that.
Correct, good catch!
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 02:38
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Originally Posted by Slasher1
HK is the ChiComms golden goose. China is a currency manipulator with a surprisingly fragile economy. It has a fiat currency which is less stable than even other fiat currencies.

If you kill the golden goose it no longer lays eggs. So killing the golden goose just because it honks or scoffs at you isn’t a really good idea even if you are mad at it or it makes you look bad to your neighbors.

If the goose gets tired of laying golden eggs for your profit and not its your kinda screwed too.

So the trick is to keep the golden goose kinda happy but still getting your cut.

And if you want to kill the goose out of spite it’s best to wait until you have another gold laying goose working for ya.

I’m not sure to what extent the commies realize this.
...umm, Golden Goose...? Slasher, HK is now only 3% of the overall Chinese economy (vs over 20%+ in the 1990's). You might want to reconsider your HK's self-importance quotient.
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 09:06
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It has some interesting currency that is linked to the US dollar.
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 10:13
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With apologies to Paul Anka.



And now, the end is near and as we face the bamboo curtain.

My friends, I’ll say it clear, I’ll state my case, although I’m hurting.



I’ve been, a trusting fool, unravelled each and every which-way,

But more, much more this, from Monday to Friday



But what is their plan, not give a jot?

For all my pains, what have I got?

When typhoons came, I took the call

Helped all I could, oh what a fool,

Their record shows, they thumbed their nose,

Sent me on my way.
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 11:42
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Once again a lot of chest beating going on here.......

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Old 14th Aug 2019, 12:46
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Originally Posted by Paul852

I can't claim the same for CX Management, but I struggle to see how they could fire someone unless they did something that was either illegal, or, whilst identifying as a CX person, bad for CX's image. As a random person walking in a legal procession of several hundred thousand people I can't see that as a dismissable offence. Just on basic statistics, on the 2 million march there must have been at least 15% of CX's workforce.
Well they have just announced firing of two pilots, no details on why but definitely linked to current situation. But look what they can tell their real masters now. "See what we did sir, did you see that, did we do good?" "carry your bag sir?"
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 13:01
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Well they have just announced firing of two pilots, no details on why but definitely linked to current situation.
Details why on HongKongFreePress.

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Old 14th Aug 2019, 18:16
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They didn't have to look too hard to find the A350 SO that posted this picture on LIHKG. I'm sure the union will get his/her job back, right?


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Old 14th Aug 2019, 18:27
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Union versus Chinese Communist Party? Only one winner there.
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