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HK extradition bill

Old 22nd Jul 2019, 05:49
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Recently a couple of SOs have told me they don't plan on staying because they don't want to end up locked in on seniority to an airline operating in effect from mainland China - a place they see HKG ending up.

First time I have heard this, normally it is the pay, pollution, housing allowance, cost of living, crap rostering system, crap leave system, crap staff travel system, lying management, time to upgrade......
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 06:25
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crap hotels, crap allowances, crap training, crap checking, crap fleet choices, crap future hopes....
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 20:07
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I watched a very interesting interview from the Chinese foreign something or other , I missed the first part of the interview but basically when asked about the one country 2 systems and the agreement with UK that HK would remain autonomous until 2047. His answer was that HK became part of China in 1997 and that Britain had better stop bluffing China with reprisals because they were not in a position to do so .
the interview was on the BBC a couple of days ago
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 13:49
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I can't see what is wrong with his statement - it is factually correct - especially about the Brits bluffing

Hong Kong IS part of China but there is an Agreement to cover a period of integration. There is no legal basis for (say) HK becoming independent in 2047

Now the mainland could just take over tonight, and I'm sure they will if it is the only alternative but historically the PRC has stuck fairly closely to long teem agreements (certainly compared to other large countries) . They could (in the far off days of the Cultural Revolution) have just torn up the old "unequal" lease agreement and walked in - but they didn't.

They take a very long view TBH
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 18:53
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I marvel at how some on here like to pretend as if a Communist dictatorship is a legitimate form of government. The Party is packed wall to wall with horrible actors who have little to no regard for human rights. They care only about power and will do whatever it takes to get and keep it, including maim and kill their own people. They are quite literally evil. Pretending otherwise is a fool’s errand. The people of HK are quite right to push back against the PRC. That they are getting so little support from most western democracies shows just how far and wide the financial tentacles of the Chinese extend. Meanwhile, the media clowns are obsessed with Russia, which is a tiny fraction of China’s size. Idiots!!!
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 19:14
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Originally Posted by cxorcist View Post
I marvel at how some on here like to pretend as if a Communist dictatorship is a legitimate form of government. The Party is packed wall to wall with horrible actors who have little to no regard for human rights. They care only about power and will do whatever it takes to get and keep it, including maim and kill their own people. They are quite literally evil. Pretending otherwise is a fool’s errand. The people of HK are quite right to push back against the PRC. That they are getting so little support from most western democracies shows just how far and wide the financial tentacles of the Chinese extend. Meanwhile, the media clowns are obsessed with Russia, which is a tiny fraction of China’s size. Idiots!!!
Spot on.

I hope the protestors are successful in keeping a degree of autonomy for the district and that China might at least be kept in check by them and support of the international community — some of whom can impose real sanction. But if Beijing really really wants a greater degree of influence it’ll take rifles to stop it. And they ain’t got ‘em.
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