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Really? The last sentence is deplorable and presents a bigoted simpleton, needing elemental black and white rationalisations of the world around them.
Commonly, pilots retire in their own countries in similar circumstances. That is, divorced, bitter and with broken spirit. Needing two race references in the one sentence says more about the person and their own failures as an expatriate.
Don't be a mug ! Do you really think its acceptable to refer to your colleagues' kids as half castes in this day and age?
Commonly, pilots retire in their own countries in similar circumstances. That is, divorced, bitter and with broken spirit. Needing two race references in the one sentence says more about the person and their own failures as an expatriate.
Don't be a mug ! Do you really think its acceptable to refer to your colleagues' kids as half castes in this day and age?
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A lot of the Asian Girls are so much prettier and nicer than their European counterparts . As for the children of European / Asian mix I always think of them as hybrids in that they seem to inherit the best of both nationalities and are usually the best looking people in the room .
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Really? The last sentence is deplorable and presents a bigoted simpleton, needing elemental black and white rationalisations of the world around them.
Don't be a mug ! Do you really think its acceptable to refer to your colleagues' kids as half castes in this day and age?
Don't be a mug ! Do you really think its acceptable to refer to your colleagues' kids as half castes in this day and age?
Halfcaste : OED: a contemptuous term used to refer to a person descended from parents of two different social strata.
Its still a word that is used, and is not rascist. You my friend are jumping to conclusions with too many assumptions.
There are an abundance of well educated, successful and socially available white pilots in Hong Kong, who choose, for whatever reason, to select partners from a different social , cultural and more importantly educational social strata.
There are many reasons to drift into this position. Asian women for example, of philippino or indonesian origin, are ultimately subservient and are tolerant of the incredible age differences that exist between older white pilots and their asian spouses.
Show me an example of an Asian man, who has a 20 year younger caucasian wife? Yep, never happens.
Again, these poor workers, who arrive in Hong Kong, as we all did, for opportunity. Opportunity to better themselves. To earn high salaries. If this also means meeting an older divorcee , who can provide for them, then so be it. I know one former DH who still calls her hubby “sir”.
In Asia, You are not marrying the girl, you are marring into the family. Alot of guys don’t realise this. If this “yellow fever “ floats your boat, then so be it. Good luck with that provident fund in your retirement.
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Gangen, don’t display your ignorance through a vested interest in self supporting and justifying your own position in the Hong Kong community.
Halfcaste : OED: a contemptuous term used to refer to a person descended from parents of two different social strata.
Its still a word that is used, and is not rascist. You my friend are jumping to conclusions with too many assumptions.
There are an abundance of well educated, successful and socially available white pilots in Hong Kong, who choose, for whatever reason, to select partners from a different social , cultural and more importantly educational social strata.
There are many reasons to drift into this position. Asian women for example, of philippino or indonesian origin, are ultimately subservient and are tolerant of the incredible age differences that exist between older white pilots and their asian spouses.
Show me an example of an Asian man, who has a 20 year younger caucasian wife? Yep, never happens.
Again, these poor workers, who arrive in Hong Kong, as we all did, for opportunity. Opportunity to better themselves. To earn high salaries. If this also means meeting an older divorcee , who can provide for them, then so be it. I know one former DH who still calls her hubby “sir”.
In Asia, You are not marrying the girl, you are marring into the family. Alot of guys don’t realise this. If this “yellow fever “ floats your boat, then so be it. Good luck with that provident fund in your retirement.
best post on pprune, BOOM, mic drop.
Gnadenburg, let me guess, lefty liberal, married an asian!
Gangen, don’t display your ignorance through a vested interest in self supporting and justifying your own position in the Hong Kong community.
Halfcaste : OED: a contemptuous term used to refer to a person descended from parents of two different social strata.
Its still a word that is used, and is not rascist. You my friend are jumping to conclusions with too many assumptions.
There are an abundance of well educated, successful and socially available white pilots in Hong Kong, who choose, for whatever reason, to select partners from a different social , cultural and more importantly educational social strata.
There are many reasons to drift into this position. Asian women for example, of philippino or indonesian origin, are ultimately subservient and are tolerant of the incredible age differences that exist between older white pilots and their asian spouses.
Show me an example of an Asian man, who has a 20 year younger caucasian wife? Yep, never happens.
Again, these poor workers, who arrive in Hong Kong, as we all did, for opportunity. Opportunity to better themselves. To earn high salaries. If this also means meeting an older divorcee , who can provide for them, then so be it. I know one former DH who still calls her hubby “sir”.
In Asia, You are not marrying the girl, you are marring into the family. Alot of guys don’t realise this. If this “yellow fever “ floats your boat, then so be it. Good luck with that provident fund in your retirement.
Another silly post.
I'm not justifying any position in Hong Kong. Actually, as I made clear in my original post, folks like yourself are dreary simpletons that, in many respects, the rest of us pay for. It's your low EQ, and that of a percentage of the pilot ranks, that has all the HR inclusiveness forced upon. Even signing on, there's the billboard of a couple of odd looking blokes, holding hands, as if in a suicide pact. It's dicks like you whom lack a metered decency that are catalysts for the gut-churning excesses of the HR types.
Half-caste by definition can be taken in offence. Try it out. Call your colleagues of mixed ethnicity half castes. Your cabin crew of mixed descent. Call them half-castes. I mean the cabin crew, with ESL, have a decency to refer to their colleagues as "mixed". Try it out on a burly FO, Dad to mixed race children. Call his kids half-castes. Or KA managers, many who have mixed race children. Ask them how their half-caste kids are going. Or talk about their yellow fever. Raise the issue professionally, in joint CRM classes.
You're brave on keyboard but you won't last long in the job brandishing this sort of crap around. And that's it though. We probably don't hear a peep from you at work.
In Hong Kong, many westerners are married to Asian women who are successful, highly educated ( more so than pilot hubby ) or wealthy in their own right. Or hard working in their own professions. Or their parents are incredibly wealthy.
And so what for the rest of your unsophisticated observations? The world's probably a better place for it but you've tried to drive it home as some sort of depressing failure. Again, says more about you.
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I'm guessing this one of your better 20 pprune posts?
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In a world where communication devices are everywhere it is incredible how messages go off piste and taken up by the permanently offended. No one is racist or bigoted here and I am sure would not want to be. As an expat in HK, yes in the good ol’ CX days of Kai Tak and A scale an overtly racist attitude would not go down well, even in the 1980s. Similar flawed logic is to assume that Brit / Aussi pilots that married Asian, probably cabin crew would or could not have beautiful and smart progeny. However it is a fact of life that many a CX pilot despite the spectacular income did not succeed due to poor financial management and one too many marital adventures. Personally, I invested in Carlsberg. Hence the poignancy. For Gods sake lighten up, it is such a weak argument to continue to accuse the well meaning of racism or bigotry when life is rarely so black and white if you excuse the pun. By the way glad MFF is abandoned, not a good idea. Cheers.
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In a world where communication devices are everywhere it is incredible how messages go off piste and taken up by the permanently offended. No one is racist or bigoted here and I am sure would not want to be. As an expat in HK, yes in the good ol’ CX days of Kai Tak and A scale an overtly racist attitude would not go down well, even in the 1980s. Similar flawed logic is to assume that Brit / Aussi pilots that married Asian, probably cabin crew would or could not have beautiful and smart progeny. However it is a fact of life that many a CX pilot despite the spectacular income did not succeed due to poor financial management and one too many marital adventures. Personally, I invested in Carlsberg. Hence the poignancy. For Gods sake lighten up, it is such a weak argument to continue to accuse the well meaning of racism or bigotry when life is rarely so black and white if you excuse the pun. By the way glad MFF is abandoned, not a good idea. Cheers.
I personally can't stand the world we live in where everyone seems to be offended by the slightest comment etc. The RACIST word gets thrown about like a cricket ball, pathetic, for god sake, lighten up.
Racism wasn't mentioned at all. Decency was.
I thought the post appalling, ignorant and disrespectful and I'm not in the PC brigade.
"Gnadenburg, let me guess, lefty liberal, married an asian!"
That's a good example of bigotry.
I thought the post appalling, ignorant and disrespectful and I'm not in the PC brigade.
"Gnadenburg, let me guess, lefty liberal, married an asian!"
That's a good example of bigotry.
And back to MFF, the cheapest Charlies in aviation, would have to be the five KA guys who voted for the original 1% with MFF. Who were these guys? They weren't our DPA manager members. Im sure they voted against. Public and private positions would be very different .
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Saving “Racism” for later, but “bigotry” rolls off the tongue quite easily. What’s next, deplorables? Name calling doesn’t accomplish anything productive. You’re smart enough to know that. Argue content instead...
