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Old 12th Mar 2019, 00:12
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Better idea... fill the survey in and tell them EXACTLY how you feel!!!
At least results will be consistent and perhaps beating the dog for crapping at the workplace will sink in.
What a total waste of time, money and effort.
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 01:09
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I'm at KA and we had the same series of surveys. I'm not sure how it went compared to CX though its probably worse. I'm not following the management updates and I didn't participate as it's a weaponised survey I warned new joining South Africans against filling out. I told these new joiners if you fill it out with enthusiasm there will be a D Scale within five years. Six months later guess what ?

Please research these surveys and their true aims. They've been around for a long time and the only reason they want engagement is to take from you ! I'm surprised the pilot unions aren't offering more guidence or analysis.



"Industrial-organizational psychologists use psychological principles and research methods to solve problems in the workplace and improve the quality of life. They study workplace productivity and management and employee working styles. They get a feel for the morale and personality of a company or organization."
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 17:20
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I filled out the survey and was completely honest with my answers. The survey results reflected my answers quite well. There is no danger of management thinking we approve of their work. I encourage all to fill out the surveys. If nothing changes for the better at CX, neither will the survey results. I just wish their was a section about the fuel hedging debacle as I have many thoughts to share about that.
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 23:00
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That's admirably philosophical or even just hopeful? They say a man walking to the gallows still has hope. The industrial psychologists would have a filed day with this information- specifically on demographic groups and what different elements or future elements of the pilot group will accept. D scale was introduced ( possibly mistakenly ) no doubt in part due the information provided by junior demographics of both pilot groups. Jaded and expensive senior pilots will be gone soon and some of the bright eyed juniors I spoke to felt their lot would improve due their positivity in the survey.

I wonder whose results worse? KA or CX ? One group seeing themselves as contract pilots and the other are weighted by industrial action. Possibly very close.
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Old 13th Mar 2019, 00:32
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Originally Posted by Gnadenburg
Please research these surveys and their true aims. They've been around for a long time and the only reason they want engagement is to TAKE from you ! I'm surprised the pilot unions aren't offering more guidance or analysis.

"Industrial-organizational psychologists use psychological principles and research methods to solve problems in the workplace and improve the quality of life. They study workplace productivity and management and employee working styles. They get a feel for the morale and personality of a company or organization."
Ed: My bold and capitals in the second sentence for increased emphasis.

I couldn't agree more with Gnadenburg.

These surveys are not for the our benefit or to improve our lot.
They are purely for the Company to get inside your head so that they can screw us even more royally.


Just how stupid do we have to be to think that the Company in any way cares two figs about our welfare, happiness or prosperity?

They just want to get us to work as hard and as long as possible, for the absolute lowest reward they can possibly get away with. They simply don't have our moral standards.

The first survey we did in CX many years ago, ended up with B scales being invented and imposed upon us (if memory serves me).

Every subsequent survey has likewise resulted in lesser conditions and reward.

So try to see the big picture from the Company's point of view and take control of your life instead of handing it over to the Company and dancing to their song.
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Old 13th Mar 2019, 04:32
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And you're going to get HKD2000 for your efforts.
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Old 14th Mar 2019, 11:50
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Do yourself a favour, and go to Australian forums and look for aviation industry employee survey by ALAEA fed sec and fill it out. Tell all the crews no matter where they come from to do it as well.
Honest and anonymous with a CX section. When collated it will give a proper honest view of the company.
I bet a few managers will read
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Old 14th Mar 2019, 13:31
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Originally Posted by RAT Management
I don't see the relevance, when all I really want to do is look at nice firm lovely bouncy tits!
You idiot !
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