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Old 1st Aug 2018, 09:55
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MC, thank you for slithering out of your cubicle and commenting. Your rather laconic, "not really necessary to comment here" dismissive attempt at obfuscation is all the confirmation I need to realize that you and the rest of your management lackeys are obviously scared to death of this lawsuit. Perhaps you could reflect on the fact that this airline has more legal trouble with their staff than BHS and Philip Green. This airline is permanently broken, because of the morally vacuous individuals like yourself who think the ends justifies the means. You and your kind are toxic.
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Old 1st Aug 2018, 19:39
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Could be forgiven for wondering if the burning smell came from the several tonnes of lithium ion and metal batteries they insist on carrying on transpac passenger flights 😜
And HK CAD once again conspicuous in its lack of effective oversight.
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Old 2nd Aug 2018, 01:31
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I have flown with the Capt concerned. A very down to earth, level headed, sound operator.

I have no confidence the Fleet Office would have my back if it suited them to shaft me.

My experience of IOC is it is best to tell them what the options are (if there is more than one) and let them choose, but only after I have decided what would be acceptable. I have had some utterly stupid suggestions from them.

I support anyone who drags this awful company into the modern age with respect to looking after their staff.

Those who have posted remarks about being soft / snowflakes show real ignorance with respect to how people react to stressful situations. You just don't know until you have been there.
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Old 2nd Aug 2018, 01:55
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Suggestion: Why don't we ALL just automatically support our colleague, until and if FACTS suggest otherwise. Her willing to go to court tells me that there are probably many FACTS about this case that CX hope will just go away. Time will tell. In the meantime, anyone who is willing to stand up to our management gets my vote.
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Old 2nd Aug 2018, 07:43
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controlled rest,

Couldn't agree more
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Old 2nd Aug 2018, 09:25
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Originally Posted by tekling
Spannersatcx,

I didn't want to get back onto these forums, but I felt I had to call out your ignorance. You are very clearly an armchair engineer working in IOC, similar to the one who visited the cockpit, and you only serve to illustrate the attitude that leads to so many complaints.
In my APU incident, the aircraft had been cleared for flight, I had signed for it. No ADDs. As has already been pointed out, the crew do not need permission to start the APU. If engineers do not want the APU started at the normal time, it should be annotated in the tech log, there should be a red and white sticker on the switch, and I should at least be advised of this - enough? Oh and the aircraft should not have been released for flight.
I am well aware that the engineers that attend the aircraft are HAECO ones. The engineer who came down from IOC was CX.
The HAECO engineers looking into the MAT a) should not have been doing so after I had accepted the aircraft, and b) should at least have spoken some English.
This was another problem on the line in that so many people waltz in and out of the cockpit prior to push back, with no reference to the skipper, just doing there own thing.
With all due respect, Spannersatcx, your post only serves to illustrate why there are so many problems like this in the company. Find out the facts before you comment!
Tekling, thanks for pointing out my ignorance, clearly I have no clue, so I will leave it at that.
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Old 4th Aug 2018, 06:11
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Originally Posted by Air Profit
Suggestion: Why don't we ALL just automatically support our colleague, until and if FACTS suggest otherwise. Her willing to go to court tells me that there are probably many FACTS about this case that CX hope will just go away. Time will tell. In the meantime, anyone who is willing to stand up to our management gets my vote.
You are aware I assume that it also involves CAD and therefore Boeing? If you feel strongly enough that the Manufacturer’s procedures were incorrect maybe you could take the stand in court and advise as such.
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Old 4th Aug 2018, 07:18
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MC, where did AP say that he felt "the manufacturers procedures were incorrect"?. Did you have a late night out in LKF MorningCoffee? A bit too much of the powdered magic dust that many of the management seem to use? Also your grammar: "you are aware I assume".... Why would any of us be aware of what you "assume" ? (or care for that matter). Seriously, Why don't you and your other management sycophants start your own blog, say, PMRUNE. Then you can quietly go round in circles with your own kind and stop embarrassing yourself on our site.
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Old 4th Aug 2018, 11:13
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All I can say in the big picture is if a well respected and conscientious Captain with a decent track record is forced to take the Company to court in order to address important issues then the culture of the Company must have become very bad indeed.
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Old 4th Aug 2018, 13:09
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Originally Posted by morningcoffee

You are aware I assume that it also involves CAD and therefore Boeing? If you feel strongly enough that the Manufacturer’s procedures were incorrect maybe you could take the stand in court and advise as such.
Now you are just embarrassing yourself. The only question is whether you are a non-pilot, pilot manager or one of those non-pilots CX hires to be seat warmers.
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Old 4th Aug 2018, 23:45
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Originally Posted by Slasher1
All I can say in the big picture is if a well respected and conscientious Captain with a decent track record is forced to take the Company to court in order to address important issues then the culture of the Company must have become very bad indeed.
Sadly, it's very far beyond "very bad indeed". The company has become a travesty, brought there by years of inept and self-serving management, ably represented by our new fleet management, who can now apparently order us to fly when unfit, and dictate what we can and can't discuss in flight. Nothing to see here, move along....
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The way our Fleet office is going recently, there will be many more employee lawsuits to come. CX managements arrogance always does them in in the end. Recent developments adhering to that formula. Fascinates me that our CP would put into print a blatantly illegal statement regarding calling in sick after a reserve call out. Have that one downloaded and printed, waiting to give to your lawyer one day if needed. Now he wants to control our conversation as well, telling us we can't talk about "industrial" issues in the cockpit. Hmmm...what else DO we talk about? Signs of panic from the 3rd floor. All we have to do is hold our discipline and resolve. You can see the cracks appearing.
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