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Originally Posted by raven11
Imagine, the first time a passenger finds him/herself upside down in one of these “self flying” airplanes, it will also be the “pilot’s” first time.
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Rhino driver - Indeed!
I find it incredulous that a hammer approach to teaching people how to fly out of an unexpected position, that they probably wouldn't have gotten themselves into if they were initially taught well, is now being mandated.
In a previous life, it seemed I spent half the time upside down, or at max angle of attack, as the norm.
Strangely, I've found that both model A and model B both respond quite nicely to "flying the aircraft" back to our normal boring straight and level status quo. So rather than fix the problem, i.e. Teaching people how to maneuver the a/c at its limits, the bean counters have Scrooged it up, to apply a save-all band-aid fix.
Yeah I'm sure shouting out "Attitude roll pitch power " or whatever counter-intuitive bs they are currently spouting is going to save the day when El Capitano leaves spikey haired earring wearing millenials at the controls going through the itcz when one of the un-noticed red/purple cells bites young spikey in the @ss.
For the love of (insert deity here), can we not just teach these people how to actually " fly"?
FFS!
I find it incredulous that a hammer approach to teaching people how to fly out of an unexpected position, that they probably wouldn't have gotten themselves into if they were initially taught well, is now being mandated.
In a previous life, it seemed I spent half the time upside down, or at max angle of attack, as the norm.
Strangely, I've found that both model A and model B both respond quite nicely to "flying the aircraft" back to our normal boring straight and level status quo. So rather than fix the problem, i.e. Teaching people how to maneuver the a/c at its limits, the bean counters have Scrooged it up, to apply a save-all band-aid fix.
Yeah I'm sure shouting out "Attitude roll pitch power " or whatever counter-intuitive bs they are currently spouting is going to save the day when El Capitano leaves spikey haired earring wearing millenials at the controls going through the itcz when one of the un-noticed red/purple cells bites young spikey in the @ss.
For the love of (insert deity here), can we not just teach these people how to actually " fly"?
FFS!
Originally Posted by Foxdeux
Personally I don't think there's anything to worry about since airplanes practically fly themselves anyways.
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Originally Posted by mngmt mole
In the meantime, enjoy the spectacle of CX losing all it's experienced and qualified crew.
The longer you stay the worse it gets and it's designed that way.
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can we not just teach these people how to actually " fly"?
Originally Posted by LongTimeInCX
Rhino driver - Indeed!
I find it incredulous that a hammer approach to teaching people how to fly out of an unexpected position, that they probably wouldn't have gotten themselves into if they were initially taught well, is now being mandated.
In a previous life, it seemed I spent half the time upside down, or at max angle of attack, as the norm.
Strangely, I've found that both model A and model B both respond quite nicely to "flying the aircraft" back to our normal boring straight and level status quo. So rather than fix the problem, i.e. Teaching people how to maneuver the a/c at its limits, the bean counters have Scrooged it up, to apply a save-all band-aid fix.
Yeah I'm sure shouting out "Attitude roll pitch power " or whatever counter-intuitive bs they are currently spouting is going to save the day when El Capitano leaves spikey haired earring wearing millenials at the controls going through the itcz when one of the un-noticed red/purple cells bites young spikey in the @ss.
For the love of (insert deity here), can we not just teach these people how to actually " fly"?
FFS!
I find it incredulous that a hammer approach to teaching people how to fly out of an unexpected position, that they probably wouldn't have gotten themselves into if they were initially taught well, is now being mandated.
In a previous life, it seemed I spent half the time upside down, or at max angle of attack, as the norm.
Strangely, I've found that both model A and model B both respond quite nicely to "flying the aircraft" back to our normal boring straight and level status quo. So rather than fix the problem, i.e. Teaching people how to maneuver the a/c at its limits, the bean counters have Scrooged it up, to apply a save-all band-aid fix.
Yeah I'm sure shouting out "Attitude roll pitch power " or whatever counter-intuitive bs they are currently spouting is going to save the day when El Capitano leaves spikey haired earring wearing millenials at the controls going through the itcz when one of the un-noticed red/purple cells bites young spikey in the @ss.
For the love of (insert deity here), can we not just teach these people how to actually " fly"?
FFS!
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I am sure the unforecast, unprecedented and totally out of our control US/PRC trade war will be the headliner at the interim results announcement in early August! There will always be something to blame.....
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Unfortunately all those nice layers of safety which used to be incorporated into the operation ( maturity, experience, talent, training and confidence) have been slowly eroded away. Now, scratch the surface of a new joiners’ competence and a shocking level of unsuitability may often be exposed.
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Originally Posted by raven11
Airplanes that fly themselves...
Ha ha, yes, that’s what management (outside the USA) are deluding themselves with....while secretly hoping a real pilot is onboard when things go pear-shaped.
Imagine, the first time a passenger finds him/herself upside down in one of these “self flying” airplanes, it will also be the “pilot’s” first time.
Ha ha, yes, that’s what management (outside the USA) are deluding themselves with....while secretly hoping a real pilot is onboard when things go pear-shaped.
Imagine, the first time a passenger finds him/herself upside down in one of these “self flying” airplanes, it will also be the “pilot’s” first time.
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Scratch the Surface
Originally Posted by kenfoggo
Unfortunately all those nice layers of safety which used to be incorporated into the operation ( maturity, experience, talent, training and confidence) have been slowly eroded away. Now, scratch the surface of a new joiners’ competence and a shocking level of unsuitability may often be exposed.
Shocking unsuitability is a shockingly understated opinion..
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Not a problem.... just disengage, push, thrust, stabilize, roll or whatever that procedure they thought they needed to teach me is.
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Originally Posted by Kitsune
Strange... I well remember A Scalers saying exactly the same about the first B Scalers to arrive...
Sorry if that doesn’t fit your eye rolling agenda...
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Originally Posted by Foxdeux
Button pusher with the occasional drastic need to safe lives.
Airlines like Qantus being the exception.
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Originally Posted by spleener
My recollection is a little different. Sure, there was bitching, but not experience levels - I flew with many in the Air Force.
Sorry if that doesn’t fit your eye rolling agenda...
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Originally Posted by Kitsune
Unfortunately for you, I retired with my A Scale P Fund many years ago... I have no dog in this fight. Having said that I (once again) well remember a lauded Airforce pilot smashing the aircraft into the ground so hard they came back from base training with the gear down...
But yeah, good and not so good airforce/ civilian. I’ve no axe to grind, but I do have skin in the game.
Enjoy your retirement.
