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Where do you guys like living in HK?

Old 1st Jun 2018, 00:27
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Basically, Hong Kong is a grave yard of broken dreams, misery and divorce.

Unless you've got a housing allowance of 50-100k HKD per month, it's going to end in tears. If you're lucky enough to have a decent housing package, you can be comfortable as an expat, and it might indeed turn out to be rewarding experience for a few years.

With a housing allowance in that region you can have a large apartment, suitable for a family, in DB, Mid Levels, Tung Chung, or a house in SaI Kung or Clearwater Bay. I would personally pick Sai Kung, with a house and a car if I were in that position.

The next problem is the education costs for the kids. It's insane.

Many of my colleagues have decamped to Phuket in the last several years, commuting to HKG, benefitting from the high salaries and housing allowance, whilst living in a location where everything is 75% cheaper. Excellent schools as well.
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Old 1st Jun 2018, 07:34
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Rather insane situation where you have to live in a different country than the one you are employed in. Suggest perhaps CX management doesn't have a clue as to the actual living conditions/concerns of their aircrew. Or they simply don't care. Be so advised.
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Old 4th Jun 2018, 07:07
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Personally I prefer the Peak, or Repulse Bay. Yet the Island is the only civilised place to live.All the good schools are here.
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Old 4th Jun 2018, 07:19
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KGV is a good school... (kowloon side)
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Old 4th Jun 2018, 09:46
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Originally Posted by Start Fore View Post
Basically, Hong Kong is a grave yard of broken dreams, misery and divorce.

Unless you've got a housing allowance of 50-100k HKD per month, it's going to end in tears. If you're lucky enough to have a decent housing package, you can be comfortable as an expat, and it might indeed turn out to be rewarding experience for a few years.

With a housing allowance in that region you can have a large apartment, suitable for a family, in DB, Mid Levels, Tung Chung, or a house in SaI Kung or Clearwater Bay. I would personally pick Sai Kung, with a house and a car if I were in that position.

The next problem is the education costs for the kids. It's insane.

Many of my colleagues have decamped to Phuket in the last several years, commuting to HKG, benefitting from the high salaries and housing allowance, whilst living in a location where everything is 75% cheaper. Excellent schools as well.
Thanks so much for your insight. I appreciate. I still have to wait to confirm how much the housing allowance will be but there'll be to some extent. I also like Sai Kung but, isn't it a bit to far to commute to the airport? That's why you mention the car I suppose. Isn't it quite a burden to have a car from what I've heard here and there, apart from costly? I've seen that there are crazy expensive schools but also other ones with more reasonable prices, some of them even without debentures. Cheers!
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Old 4th Jun 2018, 09:49
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Originally Posted by DUSKY DOG View Post
Personally I prefer the Peak, or Repulse Bay. Yet the Island is the only civilised place to live.All the good schools are here.
Hey thanks for that. Doesn't it take too long to go to the airport from these areas? And I suppose you need a car if you don't it to be too lengthy...?
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Old 4th Jun 2018, 13:13
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Hmmm, someone isnt very adept in taking the hint. In that case, come on in, the water is lovely 😱
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Old 7th Jun 2018, 09:06
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Originally Posted by mngmt mole View Post
Hmmm, someone isnt very adept in taking the hint. In that case, come on in, the water is lovely 😱
Thanks for the hints. I am not working for CX, I appreciate all kind of info and hints but I hope no offense is taken if I make my own decisions... Asking for practical info doesn't harm anybody I hope.
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Old 7th Jun 2018, 09:18
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Fair enough to ask questions. The simple answer is that coming to CX is a fools errand and best avoided.
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Old 7th Jun 2018, 10:49
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Originally Posted by KVOK View Post
Thanks for the hints. I am not working for CX, I appreciate all kind of info and hints but I hope no offense is taken if I make my own decisions... Asking for practical info doesn't harm anybody I hope.
Originally Posted by mngmt mole View Post
Fair enough to ask questions. The simple answer is that coming to CX is a fools errand and best avoided.
Pretty clear he’s moving to HK not CX. There’s more HK has to offer than just CX.

Here is another option: https://saffron-marina.com/category/...oat-hong-kong/
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Old 7th Jun 2018, 13:33
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Had a great time Central Mid-levels - 29th floor and apartment had good play park and pool. Great location to Peak walks etc.
however - our kids we not with us - don’t get me wrong, they loved to visit for Christmas, Sevens etc but they are now mid-twenties ;-)
from what I can gather from colleagues with kids requiring school was find a suitable school then decide where to live - unless you are very very wealthy - the cost of schooling or confirmed access to it will dictate where you live in HK.
Most places either have good access to ‘express’ airport buses - with Wi-fi - or ensure close to airport rail shuttle
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Old 10th Jun 2018, 08:45
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If you have to be at HKIA everyday, Sai Kung is probably a bit far.

Driving from Sai Kung to the airport takes about 45min and about 60min in morning traffic (this is based on driving the Shatin route).

As for owning a car:
I won't call it a luxury item per se. Almost everyone in the Sai Kung / Clear Water Bay / South Lantau area has one.

​​​​It is fairly cheap to buy any second hand car. Running it can be expensive though.
Fuel: HKD16 per litre. (About HKD120 for Sai Kung to HKIA and back.)
Parking: Average village parking (outside) is HKD1000 per month.
Parking at HKIA: HKD80 per day (there should be cheaper monthly deals though)
License: HKD7000 per year
MOT and service: (depends on model): ~HKD5000 per year.
Toll fees: Sai Kung to HKIA and back: HKD46 per trip.

As for renting in Sai Kung:
You can easily rent a 4 bedroom 2100sqft village house in a nice location and with good finishes for between 50 and 55K per month. (will normally include parking).
However, access to public transport might be limited, so you might need two cars if you use one to go to the airport everyday.
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Old 15th Jun 2018, 14:26
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I worked for HAECO for a while and lived in DB. I had my own flat (single bloke), It cost me roughly 10k per month. That was 5 years ago though. I loved it there, 20 mins from central etc. After living there, I found myself back in London sharing with 6 people in Acton town. I'd advise anyone to choose carefully where they relocate. I had a great lifestyle in DB, but HAECO was sucking the soul out of me so I left. People complain about HK, and yes there are some major issues, but in comparison to London, its a utopia.
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Old 15th Jun 2018, 21:33
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Originally Posted by Pitot Probe View Post
If you have to be at HKIA everyday, Sai Kung is probably a bit far.

Driving from Sai Kung to the airport takes about 45min and about 60min in morning traffic (this is based on driving the Shatin route).

As for owning a car:
I won't call it a luxury item per se. Almost everyone in the Sai Kung / Clear Water Bay / South Lantau area has one.

​​​​It is fairly cheap to buy any second hand car. Running it can be expensive though.
Fuel: HKD16 per litre. (About HKD120 for Sai Kung to HKIA and back.)
Parking: Average village parking (outside) is HKD1000 per month.
Parking at HKIA: HKD80 per day (there should be cheaper monthly deals though)
License: HKD7000 per year
MOT and service: (depends on model): ~HKD5000 per year.
Toll fees: Sai Kung to HKIA and back: HKD46 per trip.

As for renting in Sai Kung:
You can easily rent a 4 bedroom 2100sqft village house in a nice location and with good finishes for between 50 and 55K per month. (will normally include parking).
However, access to public transport might be limited, so you might need two cars if you use one to go to the airport everyday.
Thanks for all these pieces of info and hints. I am more inclined to sticking around Lantau, but the prices differ so much between DB and South Lantau... Is it realistic to look for a 4bd house in DB below 45k?
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Old 19th Jun 2018, 04:36
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And if anyone doubts the outrageous cost of anything real-estate related in HK, check this out. World record broken for selling price of a car parking space. $6M HK.

Ye, you read right, a car parking space...

https://homes.nine.com.au/2018/06/18...e-in-the-world
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