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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 01:51
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Flew with a HK local the other day who said he's mortgaging his parents house to buy his first property.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 02:18
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Martgage parents house ?

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Flew with a HK local the other day who said he's mortgaging his parents house to buy his first property.
Doesn't that sound nice and safe.. Put ALL your eggs into one basket then add ALL your parents eggs into the same basket just to buy a 600 sq/ft shoe box with a 30 year mortgage.

And what exactly happens say when he gets sick for a year with no income or say if the property market corrects 50% in the wrong direction.. Same thing happened with the fuel hedging nerds.. This is where peoples lives get ruined.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 02:22
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Zhuhai ?

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Why don't the cheap housing allowance deal CX pilots go and live in ZhuHai and commute from there? You can live like a king in ZH for the monthly rent of a dog box in HK.
Why do you think it is that almost every person "in" China wants "out" of China.
Come live in Zhuhai, enjoy the fresh air and the sparkling clean water, wide open spaces where you can frolic in the endless green fields and open spaces...

Get real
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 02:35
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Originally Posted by Flex88
Doesn't that sound nice and safe.. Put ALL your eggs into one basket then add ALL your parents eggs into the same basket just to buy a 600 sq/ft shoe box with a 30 year mortgage.

And what exactly happens say when he gets sick for a year with no income or say if the property market corrects 50% in the wrong direction.. Same thing happened with the fuel hedging nerds.. This is where peoples lives get ruined.
At least HK has a very large social housing sector. In other big cities there isn’t even that - look at the stories in London of overcrowding/ people living in garden sheds
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 03:27
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Social housing

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At least HK has a very large social housing sector. In other big cities there isn’t even that - look at the stories in London of overcrowding/ people living in garden sheds
You are correct FH, in HK it's called "subsidised housing". The problem, regarding the C, D, E, F. scale pilot workers is that your pay hits that perfect sweet spot where you will never qualify..ever.

And then look at it from another view, it's disgusting that any conversation at all in a career such as this that the topic of "subsidised" or "social" housing should even be mentioned..

But then, the DFO gets a bigger bonus, right ??
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 03:28
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Wow! The bar is really being set high, just like CX’s hiring and training standards.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 04:50
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Originally Posted by Flex88
You are correct FH, in HK it's called "subsidised housing". The problem, regarding the C, D, E, F. scale pilot workers is that your pay hits that perfect sweet spot where you will never qualify..ever.

And then look at it from another view, it's disgusting that any conversation at all in a career such as this that the topic of "subsidised" or "social" housing should even be mentioned..

But then, the DFO gets a bigger bonus, right ??
Oh, absolutely agree. For ‘sandwich class’ it sucks. And unless a pilot pretty much lives on instant noodles - saving for a deposit will take forever. At least HK takes care of the taxi drivers and bus drivers.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 05:19
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you gave me an idea:I think under facillitles I will add "live in mainland gf included".
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 06:50
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Facilities

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you gave me an idea:I think under facillitles I will add "live in mainland gf included".
Not really the same thing. What you're now talking about is called a "Micro Flat Plus"
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 08:54
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Forget MicroFLats..why live in a shoe box when you can live in a OPOD in HOng kong.. Looks cozy and safe from the nasty elements of mother nature..and maybe cheaper. its a thought.

Hong Kong Startup Turns Concrete Water Pipes into Stylish Micro-Houses
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 02:21
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Flat prices

In the paper the last few days for all those thinking about buying/renting..

US interest rates now on the way up.

What this means.

1. Mortgage payments in HK are going up...
2. Those who own (landlords) are going to have higher mortgage payments therefore rents will go up proportionately..
3. If the rates go high enough to the point where you can no longer make payments, you default and loose your shoe box (and your parents shoe box re the one above who mortgaged his parents appt to get down payment)..

OR

If interest rates go high enough - a property crash where you wake up and your shoe box has lost 50% of its value BUT your mortgage has NOT...

This has happened in HK - Caveat Emptor
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 02:43
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Originally Posted by Flex88
In the paper the last few days for all those thinking about buying/renting..

US interest rates now on the way up.

What this means.

1. Mortgage payments in HK are going up...
2. Those who own (landlords) are going to have higher mortgage payments therefore rents will go up proportionately..
3. If the rates go high enough to the point where you can no longer make payments, you default and loose your shoe box (and your parents shoe box re the one above who mortgaged his parents appt to get down payment)..

OR

If interest rates go high enough - a property crash where you wake up and your shoe box has lost 50% of its value BUT your mortgage has NOT...

This has happened in HK - Caveat Emptor
The only bit I disagree with is that landlords will put their rents up due higher mortgage costs. Rents aren't set by 'cost plus' they are set by "how much can I get". If HK landlords think they can get more money, regardless of if they have a mortgage on the rental property or not, they will put the rent up.

Same was seen in UK when the govt increased the taxes/ decreased the tax advantages for landlords. Landlords all claimed they would need to put their rents up due to the higher costs, but it didn't happen - rents in many places have gone down - as it is supply/ demand that determines rents. not cost
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 03:33
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Hong Kong is an unusual place something like 70% of properties have NO mortgage outstanding.

This is why you see the mentality where locals will happily leave a place empty for months or see a long standing tennent (like you or me) move out because they've decided to up the rent. They couldn't care less because they don't have a mortgage to pay and it's a loss of face to not get the rent they're asking for, same for commercial property.

Only the few like us and beginners will struggle with a mortgage payment rise, the vultures with all the cash will step in after the default and pay it all off without needing a loan.
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 06:40
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Interest rates on property have been as high as 19% and that would put a lot of people underwater
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 17:02
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Love the last line on this. What will YOU do with your bonus??
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 17:03
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I suppose this was intended just for the senior managers....
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 17:42
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I'm taking my bonus and paying my tax bill next week....oh, wait.

(Captains are not allowed to purchase these flats in Liverpool, for the obvious reasons....)
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 17:49
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I must say, i've accrued my bonus through other 'alternative' means. (with more such 'bonuses' to be accrued throughout the year )

"time is money". you can figure that one out...
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