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Cathay Pilot pleads guilty to defrauding Air Canada

Old 5th Jan 2018, 08:01
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Originally Posted by Curtain rod
If you think the monthly (or so!) rate of US death row inmates, the worst of the worst criminals, who are still being sprung from jail on a regular basis (even after 20+ years of automatic appeals have been exhausted with no luck) if they happen to be lucky enough (very small %) to have some new evidence or technology or law change or fix the story with someone working hard on the outside for years, then imagine being caught up in the other huge % of countries with completely corrupt, disfunctional, politically-driven, useless and blatantly unfair legal systems...not the the US system is free of those things!
Was this written with Google Translate perhaps?

MarcT is a Canadian, not an American. He copped a plea in a Canadian court. He's not on death row.
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Old 5th Jan 2018, 11:10
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Originally Posted by Curtain rod
Because you stated that someone pleasding guilty must be guilty, and Traf stated that you do not seem to understand the legal system, I mistakenly thought that expanding on that theme might enlighten you. But you just want to go on and on with your agenda, instead.
I didn't state that.

Anyway, no agenda beyond correcting your assumptions, only thought it was a relevant story... I'm out.

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Old 5th Jan 2018, 11:18
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Time to ignore you. Have a nice life.
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Old 5th Jan 2018, 11:38
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Amongst all the usual preening, did anyone actually read post number 9?
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Old 5th Jan 2018, 12:54
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Apparently not by those so concerned.

Nothing to see here...moving on.
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Old 8th Jan 2018, 18:26
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Re Post 9

Yup, read it.. Seems to think that as he was given a promo code that was not specifically for him that all is copasetic.
In many parts of the world (perhaps not Nigeria) that counts as fraud.

It's an act of moral turpitude and you can't just BS your way out of it..
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Old 9th Jan 2018, 00:56
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Why do you seem to care so much? Seems personal....
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Old 13th Jan 2018, 10:25
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Originally Posted by Marc T

I admired guilt to 'obtaining transportation at discount" NOT fraud
I shouldn't be convicted or have a record.
And exhibit "A" as proof that you should indeed have a criminal record....the very first line of the Judges Sentencing report...

[1] The Accused has pled guilty to fraudulently obtaining transportation from Air
Canada contrary to Section 393(3) of the Criminal Code of Canada.

You obviously have not accepted responsibility for your actions as you continue to minimize your culpability.
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Old 13th Jan 2018, 23:45
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And was given a DISCHARGE by the judge for admitting I should not have used the promo code I was provide with, and repaying Air Canada's loss IN ADVANCE of the hearing (line 27 if you want to follow along). I fully acknowledge and accept my actions were poorly thought out, and wrong. I have done so since day one.

Thank you for creating a new handle for your drive by post.

I said I did it, as I did. I explained my reasons, and was given a discharge on a Summary Offense, which if you brush up on your law, you'll see is the lowest grade of offence.. "trespassing, disturbing the peace, ect.

"A conditional discharge is defined in this excerpt from the Criminal Code of Canada: 730. ... Though not a conviction, it is still evidence of guilt because the accused ”pleads guilty to or is found guilty of an offence"

It's the last i'll say on this.

A judge in court made his decision with the full facts of the matter before him
Your faceless, nameless post is ignorant.

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Old 15th Jan 2018, 03:21
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Guilty

Guilty of the fraudulent charges. Early plea to lesson the serverity of the facts that show conclusively Guilt.

If the guilty party is good for the period specified by the magistrate, no convictions. Naughty boy again within that period. Convicted and accomodation with a Big Bubba.
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Old 20th Jan 2018, 00:09
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The judge noted you used a fake name and fake address to obtain the tickets? Easy mistake to make I suppose.
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Old 20th Jan 2018, 07:34
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Just like the fake information you and your management cronies push out daily morningcoffee?
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Old 20th Jan 2018, 18:36
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Pilot ordered to pay Air Canada after scamming $36K in free flights | Vancouver Sun

So the judge is lying? Or the Newspaper?

“The amount involved in these frauds is not insubstantial,” wrote Judge Patrick Chen. “The sole motivation for these offences was greed. The accused used a fake name and fake address when filling out forms to perpetrate some of the frauds.”
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Old 20th Jan 2018, 19:42
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You missed the sarcasm MC. Like you and the rest of your managers miss nearly everything else.
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Old 21st Jan 2018, 13:42
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Wow! Just Wow!

So you:

- You book flights (in First Class, no doubt) using a program in a company you don't even belong to,
- you use a fake name and address in an attempt to not get caught in what is obviously fraud to anyone with an intelligence level above that of a moron,
- you charge a friend (really?) $400 to use a code that you got for free,
- and then you come on here and try to lie about admitting guilt to fraud, and trying to downplay the extent of your actions?

You call this an "error in judgement"?

Wow! Just Wow!

With the lack of morals and integrity shown, why should anybody believe anything you say? You are a self-serving, scumbag with no moral character. The only reason you offered to pay AC the full fare costs is because you knew that you had no chance of winning that case, and feared a harsher conviction.

You're even more pathetic than that knuckle that was using his CX uniform/ID to get through airport security in Hawaii a year or so after he either quit or got fired from CX!
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Old 21st Jan 2018, 15:33
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Sounds like he is perfect for CX/KA, a bottom of barrel refugee no one in his home country would touch. He might be stuck in HK no matter how bad the contract gets. I’m guessing AT loves this guy.
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