CX, KA or... HKA?

[etops330]

I would love to be based out of HKG too, but it doesn't make any sense to join CX/KA now, if you are currently at FR or EZY you're better off staying here mate, wait for command then leave! You'll better off financially and if things don't work out and you're medically fit, go and work as a skipper in China.

[schweizer2]

I can understand where you are coming from. At my new outfit, I have been told command could be anywhere between 2 and 4 years.
The problem I have is that, It simply isn't home.

[Trafalgar]

Schwiezer. I think you have received good advice overall. I understand your comment about 'home'. I don't know your age or experience. If you are 30+, I would not join CX. The time to upgrade, even from SO to FO could easily be 5-6 years. That is a lot of wasted time doing nothing (no offense to the SO's....!). I would join HKA first choice, as they are rapidly expending, seems to be a very positive environment and you will enjoy quick upgrades. The improving package there is in contrast to the degrading one at CX. You will be a Captain there before you even are finished as an SO at CX. No contest. KA would be second choice, but is infected with Swire management just like CX is. I don't think it will prove to be an enjoyable experience (plus too much China flying). HKA is the one to go for in Hong Kong.

[schweizer2]

Thank you again for your input.

Isn't the package offered by KA significantly better than HKA?

[Trafalgar]

It isn't necessarily the 'package' that counts. Swires have already indicated they are planning to go after the KA package next. They are a toxic management group and I sincerely believe you will ultimately not be happy there. Also, most of their flying is in and out of China. Not really enjoyable on any level.

[cxorcist]

I agree with this statement 100%. Rereading this thread, it’s a hands-down no brainer to go to HKA unless you love flying in the Mainland and don’t mind all the delays.

[Average Fool]

Originally Posted by schweizer2

Thank you again for your input.

Isn't the package offered by KA significantly better than HKA?

Chasing the money will make for a very disappointing career. Go where you will get the most fulfillment. The money will come.

[Below the glide]

Good man ☝️

[Oasis]

Cx is still the way to go bud, but make sure you get the latest info before you pull the trigger...

[etops330]

The problem with any Asian airlines HR is that they will mislead you, just to lure you into signing the bloody contract. Once you're in, they suddenly forget about what they promised or come up with impossible and ridiculous requirements for bonus and upgrades. At least we have BALPA or ECA to protect us when things do go wrong in Europe. Once you're out there in Asia, you're on your own mate!

[Macarto]

Originally Posted by swh

Not really true. They make a fair bit of money by leasing aircraft and supplying parts to the mainland HNA group airlines to get around the CAAC central ordering.

That has not been going well over the past few months,
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN1DZ33G

Over a dozen FOs have left HKA for KA in the past 6 months.

Looks like there is a mix of FOs switching between HKA and KA

[cxorcist]

Originally Posted by Oasis

Cx is still the way to go bud, but make sure you get the latest info before you pull the trigger...

That’s a mirage bud, not an Oasis. I want some of what you’re smoking.

[cxorcist]

Originally Posted by Anonymouss

When do people think a deal will be reached?

Never, because CX management has to “win”. It’s almost likely dealing with a child throwing tantrum. They are utterly committed to destroying the airline but too obtuse to see how.