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Thank you RH, AT et al

Old 21st Dec 2017, 08:09
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GL leaving is no loss
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 08:36
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Be careful what you wish for. At least the imperfect GL knows how to fly an airplane, has some training experience, and can meld those qualities.

I'm not confident that his successor will be superior. But let me know if you have other information.
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 10:43
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Originally Posted by Avinthenews View Post
GL is leaving the Boeing office and is off to AHK apparently.

Bring on the next one, SB I'm betting.
SB ? God give me strength.. if he hasn't strictly violated the letter of the TB ban, he's certainly violated the spirit and intentions of it..Lightweight..with no expérience whatsoever.

GL will be sorely missed..watch this space
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 12:45
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He won't be missed by anyone who has ever attended a rigged D & G with him.

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Old 21st Dec 2017, 16:07
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No one good for the pilots will ever be hired into these jobs. SB sold his soul, fullstop. To fly with him 10 as an FO, or even 5 as a CN, years ago; you would think he’s a totally different person now. I used to think tigers don’t change their stripes. Was I ever wrong about that. Just wow!
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 19:55
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Thumbs up Movements

Originally Posted by joblow View Post
GL leaving is no loss
JB & BB - 100% right on, GL has played both sides of the fence to his own benefit and is an expert at conflating company BS and "I'm on your side" garbage to his personal advantage. Has done so since day one.

#DrainTheSwamp
This particular "leadership" movement is more akin to a good Bowel Movement if you ask me, late and with much anticipated relief.

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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 10:47
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Originally Posted by MACH.88 View Post
Morning Coffee,

I have flown with a number of "management pilot types" over the years at CX and I have found most if not all were very qualified to be in the seat they earned. To say otherwise is a bit slanderous, no? From RH, NM, IW, etc. They were all great on the flight deck. I find no basis for your previous comments, regardless of industrial relations.
Mach, English not your first language? I said is it’s pretty naive to think someone’s going to rock up in management and put the pilots ahead of company policy.
No idea wtf you’re on about.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 11:02
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I heard PC is his replacement.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 11:11
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A sideways move if PC since is already CPTraining ! However might broaden his horizon as he shoots for his old mans position.
Senior management might promote SW from DFTM. He has served his time as deputy.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 18:54
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BS

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GL to AHK is really a slap in the face. Being sent out to grass more likely to run a flying club. GL RIP.

Jobs for the boys till 65.

"If" GL goes to AHK, it goes to show all those GL believers EXACTLY where his loyalty has been over the past 15+ years.
He pulled the wool over everyones eyes for years and, bingo, just by chance he gets this? I think not.
Absolutely everything he did was calculated and he did it to further his own personal agenda and tickle his sizeable ego, the perfect military machine.

Think GMO, CPT, GMF + same same

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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 18:57
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Busy B , I have to agree with your sentiments , I have spoken to a couple of pilots who had a rigged D&G with GL .It was a traumatic experience for them . Being a Gemini he plays both sides , pretending to care whilst sharpening the knife before plunging it in .
As for PC I just hope he doesn’t try to emulate his father who was a nasty piece of work and can never be forgiven for what he did to the pilots years back
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 22:37
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PC will do exactly as he is told to do, and so will anyone else who is given the job.

I literally laugh out loud when somebody proclaims that Gus is one of the "good guys". He is there feathering his own nest on his way up the slimy management pole.

Nobody in management gives a damn about any of us. We are a line item on a budget that they are continually trying to reduce.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 23:30
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Busy B , I have to agree with your sentiments , I have spoken to a couple of pilots who had a rigged D&G with GL .It was a traumatic experience for them . Being a Gemini he plays both sides , pretending to care whilst sharpening the knife before plunging it in .
So which star signs make for the best pilots & managers? Should CX follow chinese or western astrology for recruitment & promotions?
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 23:54
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Freehills,
the star sign really has nothing to do with it , but its just coincidental that it seems to fit the individual 2 faced.
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 05:07
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Apparently, in a break from tradition two outsiders have been approached to take on the CP job vacated by GL. Two BTC's on the 777, AT and DJ asked to step in as "honest brokers" and effectively jobshare. LC is leaving at 55 ( early next year ) so not eligible.

GL stripped from introducing the 777X and dropped from his MIT consultancy group.

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Old 24th Dec 2017, 00:00
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Apologies Morning Coffee,

My post was supposed to be directed at checklistcomplete's post #48.

And yes, English is my mother tongue.

Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 24th Dec 2017, 23:25
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Originally Posted by checklistcomplete View Post
A sideways move if PC since is already CPTraining ! However might broaden his horizon as he shoots for his old mans position.
Senior management might promote SW from DFTM. He has served his time as deputy.
Did PC go through the cadet route?
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Old 25th Dec 2017, 03:13
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Not to mu knowledge
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Old 25th Dec 2017, 06:02
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No. Hired as a D-E S/O. The last A scaler. Funny, that.
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Old 25th Dec 2017, 15:05
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Not even surprised
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