So no 13 th month for Captains
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Gents - I wish you only the best. I sincerely hope you all can both get what best you can from the present situation as well as move on to either a happier career or happy retirement. For me it was a bullet dodged - all be it an easy one to see coming for all the obvious reasons of professionalism and integrity.
There are still some real pilots left at CX who know what integrity and unity is. I hope you can band together and if nothing else leave a legacy but I fear to the next generation they will be completely perplexed by it.
As I wrote in a previous thread, the GenY Millennial C-Scalers are your new bosses. They have the numbers and therefore dictate the terms. They moan and whine from the cheapest of seats about the Training Ban affecting their promotion timeline without the slightest appreciation of short term sacrifice and UNITY for long term rewards.
If these kids masquerading as "pilots" had an ounce of professional morality they would do just as they are calling for: UNITY via the means I suggested. But as I wrote, it's not in their moral compass.
There are still some real pilots left at CX who know what integrity and unity is. I hope you can band together and if nothing else leave a legacy but I fear to the next generation they will be completely perplexed by it.
As I wrote in a previous thread, the GenY Millennial C-Scalers are your new bosses. They have the numbers and therefore dictate the terms. They moan and whine from the cheapest of seats about the Training Ban affecting their promotion timeline without the slightest appreciation of short term sacrifice and UNITY for long term rewards.
If these kids masquerading as "pilots" had an ounce of professional morality they would do just as they are calling for: UNITY via the means I suggested. But as I wrote, it's not in their moral compass.
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ChinaBeached.
You didn’t answer my question, so I’m going to assume you joined on B-Scale then since you turned down the original C-Scale.
Would you not therefore agree that you accepted something that in the eyes of the A-Scalers, was an inferior contract and a potential to further cuts?
Whether you “Took contracts that didn’t undermine your colleagues” is all based on your frame of reference. Not sure if your fellow A-Scale guys would agree with you on that one.
I wouldn’t blame B-Scale colleagues, and I won’t blame C-Scale colleagues. I will blame those responsible for terrible business decisions that have created this problem, who want to transfer the cost of their mistakes onto the people who fulfill their part of the deal in keeping the operation going.
You didn’t answer my question, so I’m going to assume you joined on B-Scale then since you turned down the original C-Scale.
Would you not therefore agree that you accepted something that in the eyes of the A-Scalers, was an inferior contract and a potential to further cuts?
Whether you “Took contracts that didn’t undermine your colleagues” is all based on your frame of reference. Not sure if your fellow A-Scale guys would agree with you on that one.
I wouldn’t blame B-Scale colleagues, and I won’t blame C-Scale colleagues. I will blame those responsible for terrible business decisions that have created this problem, who want to transfer the cost of their mistakes onto the people who fulfill their part of the deal in keeping the operation going.
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Chinabeached....stop dodging the question, are you a scale or b scale? Because if you are b scale then you're the biggest hypocrite in the history of pprune, which is a major achievement indeed.
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I feel sorry for the 4 guys recently promoted to captain as mentioned by AT in the Wednesday Windup. Their value to the company reduced to "zero" after months of hard work. Shameful and soooooooooo shortsighted.
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To give everyone an idea who this pathetic little troll is, here are some of his recent quotes on PPrune:
So, to summarize:
He thinks that 4500 hours is lot (Hahahaaa!! Poor, young pup! BTW, does it even snow in Australia? Every time I've been down there, it's been mostly sunny.)
Apparently his grammar and spelling doesn't reach the same level as his unfathomable, far, far higher flying standards (Did he seriously start a sentence with the word, "Me"?)
He was willing to accept a reduced B-scale, but not a further-reduced C-scale (no hypocrisy there).
All of his friends got hired on B-scale, then they handed him a C-scale contract. He stormed away with a shattered ego, and spent the next 9 years on PPrune as an Internet troll bashing anyone who took the C-scale contract. Now he's calling for CX captains to not give jump seats to his "friends" that got the B-scale contract that he didn't get offered (Seriously, Dude! -- It's been 9 years! It's time to let it go! Why do you even care?)
He thinks that 4500 hours is lot (Hahahaaa!! Poor, young pup! BTW, does it even snow in Australia? Every time I've been down there, it's been mostly sunny.)
Apparently his grammar and spelling doesn't reach the same level as his unfathomable, far, far higher flying standards (Did he seriously start a sentence with the word, "Me"?)
He was willing to accept a reduced B-scale, but not a further-reduced C-scale (no hypocrisy there).
All of his friends got hired on B-scale, then they handed him a C-scale contract. He stormed away with a shattered ego, and spent the next 9 years on PPrune as an Internet troll bashing anyone who took the C-scale contract. Now he's calling for CX captains to not give jump seats to his "friends" that got the B-scale contract that he didn't get offered (Seriously, Dude! -- It's been 9 years! It's time to let it go! Why do you even care?)
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Pogie,
'Me' thinks your post is brilliant. Excellent research.
Not sure about snow in OZ, but I did experience 9ºC once. So maybe he does have some winter experience.
'Me' thinks your post is brilliant. Excellent research.
Not sure about snow in OZ, but I did experience 9ºC once. So maybe he does have some winter experience.
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The only bending over i'll be doing is when I bend over to adjust my flip flops before heading to the beach. The beach i'll be on recuperating from my 'unfit for duty' time off. That time will be used to finalise my retirement plans. As for those of you a bit younger, use the same time off work to attend interviews and plan your exit from this utterly toxic company. Speak to those that have recently left. None of them regret it. There is life after CX. By all means stay if you want a career of abuse, meager earnings and living in fear. Then this will be just the place for you.
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Show unity without risking your job
There are some selfless and generous pilots at CX, many of whom are captains who have just been screwed.
A few years ago, almost 300 CX pilots donated over US$13,000 to two heroic passengers screwed by CX.
Caring airline again!
I think the idea of all the FOs and SOs pooling their "13th month" and distributing it to all the captains is a great idea, one which would show unity without risking anyone's job!
Now's the chance.
A few years ago, almost 300 CX pilots donated over US$13,000 to two heroic passengers screwed by CX.
Caring airline again!
I think the idea of all the FOs and SOs pooling their "13th month" and distributing it to all the captains is a great idea, one which would show unity without risking anyone's job!
Now's the chance.
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I don't want nor need my colleagues money. They deserve their small stipend, and so do we. In fact, we all deserve a full 13th month. The Captains can take care of this effectively in other ways, and we will. I do think that the AOA should immediately pass a motion that states that no one will take up a vacated CandT position until the person that vacates said position is rehired back into that position first. That way the company won't be able to fill the slots of those resigning from C and T.
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Are you crazy! Cx will just repeat their tactics next year and assume the rest of the troops will share it again. It'll become the norm.
CX/Swire Mgmt has decided to pay less than a full month of 13th month to ALL pilots (SO1 basic monthly is more than $35000). Whilst I appreciate the generosity in suggesting a share of the misery, I am totally in agreement with Traf that other means will be found to penalise the company for this egregious gesture.
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CX has I think finally crossed the for me personally. Any illusions that the company had any respect for me as a Snr. Capt. are gone. It goes without saying we will all carry out our own forms of resistance. To all the trainers and checkers, how many times do you need to be slapped in the face before you man up and resign. Give your self inflated egos a rest. If you stay your as bad as them.
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I’m happy for all the A,B,and C staff. To all you Pilot managers,check and trainers, remember the two words respectful and respect. We are respectful now because we have to be. When the dust settles on this, you can all sit around together and tell each other all the narcissistic lies you want because all you’ll have is each other.