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Check your info before spouting your ‘facts’.
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Read ALL the posts! I am not claiming anything and NO Names have been mentioned, but one poster claimed pilots booked off sick for 3 months (and left the company) but were FIT again to start work at a new airline 6 weeks later. Presumably they had to provide evidence to CX and the HKCAD of their long term sickness. If not then it is just another story, Doctors like to be able to keep their Licence to practice.
Read ALL the posts! I am not claiming anything and NO Names have been mentioned, but one poster claimed pilots booked off sick for 3 months (and left the company) but were FIT again to start work at a new airline 6 weeks later. Presumably they had to provide evidence to CX and the HKCAD of their long term sickness. If not then it is just another story, Doctors like to be able to keep their Licence to practice.
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I think the evidence needs to be provided to CAD to return to work using your HKG license. I am sure the pilots in question provided any evidence needed to the new authority that governed their license. Probably amounted to an explanation and standard medical exam to meet class one standards.
eg... I was exhausted due to the rostering on the 747 at CX, I was stressed about the constant attacks from management. I was not fit to fly and would not be fit to fly under that pressure and scrutiny so went sick for three months, management are vindictive and it worries me. My new employer is great and I feel no pressure, am excited to get started.
Your right, Drs value their license to practise, any sensible one would not force a pilot to go to work if he is feeling exhausted and under pressure.
eg... I was exhausted due to the rostering on the 747 at CX, I was stressed about the constant attacks from management. I was not fit to fly and would not be fit to fly under that pressure and scrutiny so went sick for three months, management are vindictive and it worries me. My new employer is great and I feel no pressure, am excited to get started.
Your right, Drs value their license to practise, any sensible one would not force a pilot to go to work if he is feeling exhausted and under pressure.
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Happy to be wrong but...
Anyone hired after the demise of B scale does not get ANY repatriation assistance. No air ticket, no baggage, no nothing. Local terms. For expats. Enjoy.
incorrect. If you are not PR you will get a repatriation ticket. It’s apparently part of the rules of them sponsoring your visa, they are reasonable for you leaving the country . I got a Pri04 J class repatriation ticket issued the day I handed in my CX ID card and CMC.
Check your info before spouting your ‘facts’.
If it is 'part of the rules' then I am wrong and happy to be so. Can you quote? My contract includes benefits on location to HKG but is entirely silent on reparation unless hired on an expatriate contract. The inference is that if it's not in your contract then it probably isn't. Perhaps iceman or mc would like to comment. In the meantime, I stand by my remarks: when I quit in the New Year, I will repatriate at my own expense.
incorrect. If you are not PR you will get a repatriation ticket. It’s apparently part of the rules of them sponsoring your visa, they are reasonable for you leaving the country . I got a Pri04 J class repatriation ticket issued the day I handed in my CX ID card and CMC.
Check your info before spouting your ‘facts’.
If it is 'part of the rules' then I am wrong and happy to be so. Can you quote? My contract includes benefits on location to HKG but is entirely silent on reparation unless hired on an expatriate contract. The inference is that if it's not in your contract then it probably isn't. Perhaps iceman or mc would like to comment. In the meantime, I stand by my remarks: when I quit in the New Year, I will repatriate at my own expense.
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The company used to give you a checklist to follow and 2 days "admin" days to complete it but in the abscence of this can I suggest this :
1. Contact HKIRD and get your tax sorted. You need a letter from CX.
2. Contact HK Immigration Dept to see what your status will be when you leave.
3. If required go the Central Police Station and apply for a "non-criminal record" cert.
4. Hand in all uniforms and paper manuals and get receipts.
5. Hand in CX ID and ICAO crew card. Get receipt.
6. Surrender all CX car passes.
7. Surender mailbox and locker keys.
8. Contact the salary section and get the date and final payout amount confirmed. Cancel all CX deduction authorities for staff travel etc etc .
9. Ask for all personal and training files to be deleted.
NEVER LOOK BACK
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1. Contact HKIRD and get your tax sorted. You need a letter from CX.
2. Contact HK Immigration Dept to see what your status will be when you leave.
3. If required go the Central Police Station and apply for a "non-criminal record" cert.
4. Hand in all uniforms and paper manuals and get receipts.
5. Hand in CX ID and ICAO crew card. Get receipt.
6. Surrender all CX car passes.
7. Surender mailbox and locker keys.
8. Contact the salary section and get the date and final payout amount confirmed. Cancel all CX deduction authorities for staff travel etc etc .
9. Ask for all personal and training files to be deleted.
NEVER LOOK BACK
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When we were young we would grab any job to get more experience.Same mentalilty persisted for maybe 20 years. After that we were more concened with pay , allowances , standard and location of hotel. When we cross the Pacific Ocean we might be thinking . For example cross check navigation aids vor adf versus gps computer output or never mind. Perhaps never mind when we get older.
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So this leads us to the Human Condition. "Human Condition " could be a new pprune forum in itself.he human condition refers to the distinctive features of human existence. As finite and mortal entities, there are series of features that are common to most human lives, and some that are inevitable for all. These features and the human response to them constitute the human condition. However, understanding the precise nature and scope of what is meant by the term "human condition" is itself a philosophical problem.The term is also used in a metaphysical sense, to describe the joy, terror, humor and other feelings or emotions associated with being and existence. Humans, to an apparently superlative degree amongst all living things, are aware of the passage of time, can remember the past and imagine the future, and are aware of their own mortality. Only humans are known to ask themselves questions relating to the purpose of life beyond the base need for survival, or the nature of existence beyond that which is empirically apparent: What is the meaning of existence? Why was I born? Why am I here? Where will I go when I die? The human struggle to find answers to these questions — and the very fact that we can conceive them and ask them — is what defines the human condition in this sense of the term.
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Your first loss is your best loss Leon Richardson used to say.
[QUOTE=CX ex;10270020]
Repatriation costs will be the best money you’ve ever spent.
Your first loss is your best loss Leon Richardson used to say.
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I can perhaps see, that if you joined on a superior expat COS, but then went 'local' on a **** contract. Part of the fact that you're now a 'local' means you don't get repatriation benefits. But I stand to be corrected...
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Join on the C/Standard within the 'group'. Get airfare and baggage to HKG as expected. Leave on the same contract and you receive nothing to help you get home. Not as reasonably expected but you should have read the contract. Of course you count for even less as an ex-employee as a current employee. So what are you gonna do about it? Go f@ck yourself, that's what.
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[QUOTE=Bueno Hombre;10270289]For those who are entitled to a container to repatriate their belongings upon retirement or resignation you need to be aware that if you want to send the container to anywhere other than your registered country of domicile you need to give the company 24 months notice. Hidden in the small print and has caught a few guys out. Beware.
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My course buddy who is leaving in December went to the salary department to arrange his final salary transfer in December and get a tax printout. This was provided within minutes. Upon examination he noticed no 13th month and asked why. Answer : " no 13th month for ANY CX pilots this year".
He phoned the HKAOA to advise them of this and was told " we know ".
He phoned the HKAOA to advise them of this and was told " we know ".
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unitedabx - when he told the AOA about no 13
th month and they said “We know”, what was their answer to the obvious next question of “what is the HKAOA going to do about it” ?
th month and they said “We know”, what was their answer to the obvious next question of “what is the HKAOA going to do about it” ?
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...many more are in the process of jumping ship as we speak. COS18 is the aviation equivalent of the East German soldiers starting to build “ the wall”. You knew it was a bad sign, and you instinctively knew you needed to escape before it was too late. The window of opportunity is narrowing.
